Discussion This is why I personally participate in leaking.

robertohavito

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Whoever this creator was, what type of content would she make? Do you ever see the content being better than just "decent" with time? If you can make peace with seeing as much as you had based on what you were paying for and sharing (I assume here on SimpCity) up until you quit or were about to quit your subscription, then you did your part and gifted a lot of other people the chance of seeing what you did. Turning your back on her along with others might get those prices to be knocked down.
 

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It wasn't nude content or anything close to that, but it was lewd enough to just about keep them in line with TOS on most sites. For the price at the time it wasn't bad for what you were getting out of it, but now it's the same content but being priced way higher. On top of that the new price is simply a subscription fee and doesn't even account for what you'd pay to unlock sets.

I know some creators that charge the same for monthly BJ and nude content, so it just didn't justify subbing again. Maybe it is a sign for creators to actually look at their content and question if they are even worth that price compared to what others offer for the same cost.
 

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It's a real prisoner's dilemma, isn't it? Do you buy the PPVs so nobody can miss out on it, but risk buying it for nothing when someone else already leaked it? Or do you not buy it and hope others leak it, but risk a situation where nobody has anything to leak?

Kinda sad that this is happening on a forum like this were we can communicate with each other, because the prisoner's dilemma is only a dilemma because both prisoners can't talk to each other.
 
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Exactly. If other people were posting then I wouldn't feel a need to, but I only seen to do so because nobody else is. But then that causes others to not feel a need to, and the cycle continues. :hahaa:

I guess it's the beauty of leaking though. It's the surprise of what you might or might not get when you open up the forum.
 
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I think it's a "little from column A, a little column B" type of scenario. There's a million OF girls out there so it's not like we can paint them all with the same brush when it comes to the reasons why they do OF. I'm sure a lot do it for vanity, and I'm sure a lot do it because everyone's got bills to pay.

In a sense you're right about the fact that if you're desperate for quick cash you're probably not pricing stuff at 100$ hoping for some whales. It seems that girls that do, do that are ones with bigger followings. Famous twitch girls, pro pornstars, YouTubers etc. If your following is big enough, someone will pay the 100$ and you only need one or two whales to shell out for it.
 

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There's a point where finding people to pay is always easy. When all of these girls were in Patreon, the 100+ tiers were (and are) always full.
 

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They ask for $100 because they don't realise that they're just commodities. Their thin, petite, pale bodies are so interchangeable, that it takes a lot to stand out. They might not even watch porn, or watch enough to be desensitised. I don't want to dehumanise them, but I'm reminded of that girl who got called mid: "the internet made average women think they're beautiful".

I'm culling all the softcore and instagram models I for some reason had on watch. Unless I know them personally, I don't see myself paying for goods. I wouldn't mind paying for services though, if you get my drift. But since they're as interchangeable as lego bricks, I ask myself "would I stop seeing the same skinny torsos if I didn't pay up?" No, another one would pop up.

Blame the internet for devaluing their bodies. Their prices are 20-30 years out of date. But thanks for your service, all leakers :KKomrade: I genuinely mean that.
 

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Whether you're making it or enjoying it, any sort of online sex work is nasty business as far as trying to find any sort of moral ground to stand on is considered. You're always objectifying the content makers in "enjoying" the content and the makers are voluntarily (in most cases) putting themselves out there to be objectified. When "enjoying" said content, we don't want tragedies or life's struggles to permeate the air because that's when we start to feel bad about ourselves and maybe the person making the content potentially. If a person feels that they have to get into sex work part-or-full-time to eke out an existence, that's unfortunate but it's an option and a choice they make that they have to own.

You speak another ugly truth regarding how many of these "average"-looking women aren't anything special. There's been a glut of Internet porn that exists to satisfy most anyone's sexual kinks, urges or needs. A handful of these women make it big either because they find this amazing niche area or because they were famous before they got into porn/online sex work and the others manage on some level. When it comes to running a business, though, you have to keep your prices competitive. Someone on Onlyfans is mainly treating their work as if it's a business unless they have a team running parts of their show. If you're about as comparable to the next woman ramming a dildo into one of their orifices or giving a JOI, you can't charge top dollar unless you're one of those famous faces. The impressionable newer/younger content makers probably set the bar really high early on and find out quickly that they're not pulling in very much because they're possibly unaffordable.

Filming any sort of sex act, making some sort of sexy pose and filming it or showing off a nude body part doesn't require a ton of skill, as noted on this site either in this thread or elsewhere. Don't pay for something that you don't need a whole lot of skill or training on that you could probably enjoy IRL by meeting the right person.
 

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Yeah i think you pretty much hit the nail on the head when it comes to the "interchangabilty" of a lot of OF girls as mentioned by legacy123 . Fundamentally there's very little difference between skinny-blonde-insta-thot-with-a-bbl #1 who films with her iPhone camera and skinny-blonde-insta-thot-with-a-bbl #2 who does the same. So if someone's going to shell out the money for one of them it's not because of how they look it'll probably be for secondary reasons i.e. how active they are, how much content they have uploaded etc. Otherwise, yea a lot of them are simply interchangeable.

It goes back to if you already have a following, you can charge more. I'm reminded of Bella Thorne , a c-list actress who made an OnlyFans and was charging like 200$ and ended making a million in a week or something. She had two things working for her; hype and imagined scarcity.
Hype because she had some degree of fame and was a regular actress making an onlyfans so people wanted to see it because it was novel for a SFW to do something like that. And imagined scarcity because she priced her content so high, it made people feel exclusive to get it and see it.

Run of the mill OF girls can't do that because for every one of them charging 100$ for a 30 sec video, there's someone else just like her, charging way less for way more.
 
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I just saw that Emma Kotos introduced 'DIAMOND CLUB' whose vaguely defined benefits suspiciously sound exactly like VIP which she's already been doing. That kinda reminded me that there's always a new level of grift but, whatever motivated her or whatever she thinks she's accomplishing with that, it looks oddly desperate.

Like, how do you just invent a brand new tier/level without saying you're not making enough money from your VIP thing? Her whole Onlyfans is just a PPV bonanza and while I don't unlock her stuff, I'm pretty sure she keeps sending some of the same sets and video clips over time. Don't think she's got any overview over what she's been sending to whom so far either.

Plus, she's been milking the 'I shot sex tapes but I won't release them yet' for over two years now and I think anyone who's been following her has been getting real tired of the same handful of clips of her bf fondling her tits being sold as exciting b/g content.

I know this was very model specific but I think the Diamond Club thing especially is something we're gonna be seeing more of as the VIP Membership (which everyone seems to be doing) is getting played out and models will start pretending there's an EVEN MORE exclusive level if you just pay enough.
 

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That's what I'm saying. You've squeezed the maximum out of the 'old model' so now you have to make up something even better to keep the grift going. It's Malibu Stacey, but now she's got a hat.
 

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So, this is what I think: Sites like this are a godsend. The people working in this industry might say this is piracy and illegal but well they are exploiting the natural biological reactions of men and women too in the first place! Without our biological needs we wouldn't be forced to watch them either. So we are indeed the true victims & they are just taking advantage of our natural reactions. :WeSmart:

I never plan on paying these scammers because this industry is impacting the society on a huge scale. God knows how many people are not finding the right partners because they are busy masturbating at home by watching people they will never be with and that too from a very young age. And if you say, it's the fault of people watching porn: it's not, porn is literally shoved down our throat these days when we barely even hit puberty. Our brains are simply not built to fight this shit. That's so many people that could be born in healthy relationships but they are not even born. Instead, since both genders are masturbating these days, the pairs are also not bonding with each other chemically as they should. This is leading to low levels of trust in society and relationships are literally reduced to a joke these days. Let's not even get into male suicide rates and females consuming medicines for mental illnesses or going for therapy.

These people are using the biggest weakness in men and women & they expect millions of $s and a life of luxury? No way. They have blood on their hands but so do we. However, they have full control as they can stop selling nudes & do something else that society values, while we the end-users dont have free will unless 99.99% of the porn disappears-our brains are simply not equipped to deal with it. It's only a change in law that can set everything right but we all know how bad the legal system is. We are near the end is all I will say. Something else is coming :KKomrade: