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Internet_Janitor

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I've been buying content since I first discovered you could do so way back in the very early 2000's. We didn't have many payment processors and often it was a laborious process of going to Western Union and sending a payment and then waiting to recieve the email with the goods. Cameras were bad and webcams were worse. No one really knew what they were doing but it was better than dating. I was an honest guy who actually respected the women who were fulfilling my needs in a simple, straightforward manner without the headache of dating and dealing with people IRL. In 10 years I got scammed maybe once or twice.

But a few years ago that started to change. Suddenly, dealing with "models" was as much, if not sometimes more so, annoying as dealing with people IRL. In the face of rising prices and falling quality (it honestly feels like sometimes these girls are doing it on purpose - you have to *willfully* be screwing up to take worse pictures with an iPhone 11 than the old Logitech webcams from 2004...), I've turned to leak/trade sites vs subscriping or patronizing directly. Occasionally my interest will be piqued and I'll go spend some money. More often than not these past years, I am disappointed and wish I had spent the money on something else.

This is one such occasion that truly and really epitomizes the situation:

Discovered this girl, "Putri Cinta", from the old forum before The Simpening. She looked pretty good. Her content was pretty skimpy though - just the same old same old low effort poses and outfits. Letting her looks carry her without bothering with any creativity. And nothing incredibly spicy, mostly bikini stuff. A very paltry selection of short B/G videos, and some basic G/G stuff. Whatever, she looked good so I decided to sub to her free page and message her to see if she sold customs. I wasn't even subbed for a 12 hours and I got several PPV spams ($25-$50 for just a few pieces of media... one of them was 70% discounted and it was still almost $30 for a 2 minute long video...). I decided to try my luck and see if she sold customs to satisfy a particular fetish of mine:

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What the actual fuck?

In a way, I can't blame her. Women are women and will be women. The sad thing is there *are* simps out there who will spend hundreds of dollars for "a couple" of pictures.

What sucks for her is she tried to get $200 and instead got nothing. She could have made a $50 and probably got my sub + future commissions but instead she walks with 0. Maybe she makes enough from desperate rich guys but she's simply priced out of the market for 99% of guys. Imagine having to be a 1%er to buy porn. Fucking unreal.

I'd rather just get it for free now.

It didn't used to be like this. Back in the day $20 would get you 20-40 pictures or a 5 minute video. Now you're lucky if you get a 30 second snippet of a premade when you order a custom and maybe a single blurry webcam quality photo.

Anyway. Guys. Keep doing what you're doing. This is the market at work.
 
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I completely agree with you.
But I must add, these women (at least in SE Asia) don't really run their own OF accounts, they usually have these modern day pimps who basically own them (in a way) and own the rights to all the photos, videos and other material they make. You would think Putri, Erzabel and other women would already live in a Monaco apartment with the amount of money they make but yet they don't. They probably get a taste of the money, maybe 10% and the rest goes to these guys.
There were Dan Bilzarian videos and you could see Putri in the background, Dan's team probably got in touch with some people and they found Putri and some other women.
But, there is luck for us, regular guys. I had a friend who worked in Singapore for several years and every couple of months would visit Indonesia... Him being tall, European was a enormous advantage and women were all around him just to get a glimpse of the world beyond Indonesia. He could have married them if he wanted to.
 
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I remember years ago when websites similar to onlyfans and such started popping up, there was this formula for posting your nudes.
The girl would charge like $50, then after a few people bought it she'd drop the price down to $10 or less because they knew it'd get leaked, but at a low price, people would buy it like it was a bargain. So they'd make that big hit and then lots of little hits adding up to be more than the original price.
Now it is just "GIVE ME $100s for me in a bathrobe! arrrrrgggh!!"
 

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yeah as soon as people relised that going nude would accualy earn them less they stoped doing so
there are a few who eventually started doing more like darshelle stevens who went from 200 for 1 topless picture to now doing creampie

but imo since bhad barbie and others made it mainstream that they earned millions without ever going nude it kinda exploded in people that just prefer to tease and "topless but not showing anything"
 

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It could always be worse. I've been waiting for the cam girl 'alie_smith' to make a real Girl/Girl video for years. The closest she's ever done is mild teasing with her friend during a cam show. She lives in Poland that is being flooded with Ukrainian refugees. You would think her level of desperation for cash would make her finally release a Girl/Girl video with everything.
 

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I work in software/eCommerce, and what these OF thots haven't figured out is that it's not worth charging large sums most of the time; you make bigger money by figuring out the price point at which most people are willing to pay.

But sadly, there are always gonna be suckers falling for the scam.
 

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That's the thing isn't it?
They aren't thinking.
They are trying the "Big Sale!" scam, but messing it up.
Basically, they are trying to do what most stores do, sell an item at $80, then mark it as on sale from $110 down to $90. Wow! a nice sale! wow wow! people fall for it all the time.
But in reality, what the thots are doing is trying to sell that $10 for $100 and then marking it down to $98.99.
 

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Women will be women.

I've had countless conversations with sellers who were trying to overcharge. Explaining that they have no overhead; they don't have production costs. I'm willing to pay X amount for the content I'm requesting, but not the price they're charging. So let's compromise? Nope never. "I know my worth." Well apparently you're worth to me is $0 cuz that's what you're getting from me. Most of these girls I don't see after a few months anyway. Cheap girls stick around forever.
 

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Alie is sweet, but she is definitely way too expensive. I got a few things from her on OF and one day she charged me twice for the same content but at different price points. So Initially I couldn't tell the content was exactly the same thing. Didn't get a refund or even an apology from her,

Some of her most recent content was defo wilder than the usual teasing tho, but no g/g.
 

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only buy when you know for sure you're dealing with the girl directly (it's easy to tell after a bit) and only if she's not beyond a certain area you're not willing to go (for me the ideal for a ppv or even a custom is 30, 40 i'm willing to do it but if it's beyond 50 I won't)
 

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There's also the issue with ''whales''. Some creators feel totally justified selling a shitty iPhone video they filmed at 200$ because all it takes is one or two people to buy it. Convincing 20 people to buy your 10$ video still requires convincing 20 people. But if you can convince 1 one person with more money than brains, you've justified the price.

When you see creators post content for absurd amounts of money, it's not to convince their loads of average subscribers to buy, it's to convince the 3 or 4 ''whales'' that they know will shell out the big bucks.