Discussion This is why I personally participate in leaking.

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nightspartan

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Deffo a bit of both, but hard leans to "that way to begin with". I've helped a couple female friends set their stuff up, and they're friends for a reason.

Then several girls they met through all this shit would ask for help getting set up too (and their "friends" and so on) and i quickly realised i wouldn't wanna be seen with a lot of them, let alone be friends.
 

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I feel conflicted abou leaking content because don't want to pay for PPVs of scamming thots, but leaking content of girls actually worth subbing to, hurts them and will cause them to become frustrated and either hire agents / managers, or even quit OF altogether.
 

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its like that argument about pirating video games or movies. Many of those that pirate never had any intent of paying either way. But plenty pirate something, decide its worth the money, then buy it

Theres several girls i've discovered through leaks, and gone on to sub to, that i wouldn't have even known about if not for people leaking.

What it really comes down to, is whether the "loss leader" results in increased overall income
 

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It's a valid argument, but I feel like more often than not, it creates a situation where everyone simply stops supporting the creator and just expects other peeps to leak content. After all, "Why should I keep buying content when others leak it for free?"

Only when leaked content starts stagnating, a select few people will take one for the team and fork over some cash for content and leak it... Or no one does, and the thread simply dies. I've seen it happen first-hand to some threads here.
 
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I think if creator has reasonable prices than there always be supporters. For me paying up to 30 bucks per month is not a big problem and will be subbed if I get decent content for this.

Main problem here is greed, charging too much for mediocre content(75 and more dollars per month or constant expensive PPV) is why leaking is necessary.
 

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I think a lot of content creators over-estimate just how "valuable" their content is compared to the next creator. Charging top dollar to see you do something that thousands of other women do for lower prices from potentially better-looking women is going to encourage people to leak your content to the masses so they have a sense of "buyer beware". It's a charitable endeavor and leakers who actually paid for the content in the first place are pretty generous people each time this happens.
 
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"Charging top dollar to see you do something that thousands of other women do for lower prices"

If only they actually did it. No usually for 100 dollars you get simple nude photoes, or maybe not even naked.

As I mentioned before - if you charge money then panties off, bend over, and spread your buttocks without such content I won't pay you a penny.
 

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For a moment, let's just look at it from a humanistic level as to why they overcharge and not make the assumption that it's because they're overestimating the value of their content and their body.

Maybe they're trying to make back money on an investment into themselves like implants or a butt-lift. Maybe they are supporting a sick family member or need surgery. None of this changes the fact that people will decide what value is found in a person selling their wares - nudes or comparable content in this case. I'm only looking at it from the standpoint of "what makes a creator on a platform such as Onlyfans charge high prices for something easy to acquire such as porn? Is it all vanity? Or could it be something else?"
 

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I think it depends on whether or not they put an explicit disclaimer saying they don't do nudes on their bio. There's a market for teasing and softcore porn, and as long as they don't pretend to be doing explicit nudes and scam people, I'm okay with it. You know what you're signing up for.

The best value OF content creators are the ones who already do hardcore porn, cause they can't (and simply won't) go back to softcore teasing. There's a ton of competition in that space too so they have to adjust to market pricing anyway.

Honestly Scamouranth (and Belle Delphine initially) ruined OF since they showed everyone how much they can get away with and still have an army of simps throwing money at them.

If I was in a room with Hitler, Bin Laden and Scamouranth, and had a gun with 2 bullets in it, I'd shoot Scamouranth twice.
 

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Nice Office reference.

Having a disclaimer is nice and all, but Onlyfans is a platform where the majority of the content is pornographic and that is the expectation and norm. I think if a creator is going to only ever do softcore/lewds/teasing, they'll find out that they won't make very much long-term unless they're really famous already from a different platform or medium - like crossover appeal. There's also the matter of when content does leak out that implies a comfort level or interest in going beyond those limits previously defined that will set people up for the hope that said creator will go nude or start filming sex acts - what's the protocol/decorum for that?

I agree with you that having a disclaimer is helpful and does put the onus on the buyer to expect what they're getting by subscribing for the price per month. It'll be the creator's loss if she sticks to her guns and only ever releases content consistent with that disclaimer and all parties need to respect that in general.
 
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I just got a notification from the Prosexx thread and it reminded me of this bullshit:

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Fuck bitches that do this tbh. It's your content, so you're free to do what you want with it, but don't whine about pirating and people sharing your shit when you delete your own videos because "muh feelings."

Make the shit free if you don't want to hear requests about your old boyfriend, you scandalous ass bitch :WeirdChamp:
 
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It is vanity though. People who are truly desperate for money will do anything to get it. In the art commission world, artists will do emergency commissions for 15-30 bucks a piece. Drug addicts will suck your dick in an alleyway. Sex workers usually turn to camming since that seems to be a good stream of instantaneous income.

Someone who is desperate for money will not be pricing stuff at 100$ and hope a few whales bite. They simply don't have time to wait around like that.
 

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I'd agree with you that vanity is probably a leading or the leading reason/justification. My trip is considering a person's motives and several likely possibilities before jumping to conclusions - namely when a particular creator is over-charging - because it helps me keep my morals in check and to avoid unnecessarily objectifying a human being doing something admittedly degrading so we can be stimulated/satisfied. If to me, they seem like a shitty person or a grifter, then they deserve what other people say about them in a lot of cases.
 
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Maybe I am wrong, but I think that amature showing nude body does not require tremendous skill or effort. While other content creators in youtube or patreon such as musicians, teachers, entertainers put tremendous amounts of effort into their efforts - you need skill to play guitar, you need to study and study well for an educative video especially about some hard stuff like programming, maths or biochemistry, you need to be really good to play doom on nightmare difficulty and than usually editing video is really hard and time consuming, some technical videos take monthes to make, like doing crazy stuff like making portable nintendo consoles , redesigning lasers etc . And they do it for free!!! Or they have quite cheap patreon. What do you need to make an amature nude photo/video? Take clothes off, put phone or camera , start posing. Yes it needs some effort and knowledge to organize place, make lights, choose pose, check photoes and edit videos, yes you need some skills and yes you need a decent camera but anyway it is much more easier than making aforementioned musical/educating/gaming content.

So basically women can make videos that they can sell for extreme amounts of money just because there is nudity, showing nude body suddenly is more valuable than high effort technical video just because there are boobs and pussy. I wish I could sell my photoes for such money, but no, I had to get education up to PhD and than work hard to earn money.


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Sometimes softcore creators don't do hardcore because they want to increase the price of their new exclusive " I finally show my boobs!!!" or " I show my butthole!!!" and then they sell it for stupidly high money.
 

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I've periodically thought the same sentiment you expressed - it takes little to no effort to take a nude selfie or some sexy/lewd act in one's bedroom or bathroom and make a photoset/video set out of that. You summed it up otherwise quite well. I think the idea of it being really easy to make qualifying porn/sexual content feeds into the trope of porn stars and sex workers being pretty dumb in general and not qualified for much else.

But to be fair to them, the female form is one of the best things we have in civilization still going for us and people will pay good coin for seeing a hot woman's assets on hopefully full display. In spite of all of our gripes over creators and their habits, women are smart at least for recognizing they can monetize their bodies and own that instead of treating themselves as someone else's property. It's not something all women should be doing but I do see something empowering about that and we should respect it even if for just a moment.
 
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Going through this at the moment tbh. I was subbed to one girl who was putting out decent content, and it got to the point where nobody else was contributing anymore so it was just me. Now she's moved platforms and hiked her prices up by 300% and I just can't justify spending that much a month. Shit thing is that most people who were posting before me have given up since they didn't feel the need to anymore.
 
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