Discussion This is why I personally participate in leaking.

Mondschein

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The trouble is that it's not always clear what "a lot" is. You don't even have to be a pearl-clutching fundamentalist to believe that any amount of porn is bad. I've dated some women (who I thought were pretty open-minded) who felt porn consumption of any kind was an instant red flag. So even though we've come a long way in our culture, porn still carries a weird stigma when all it really boils down to is easing a natural biological drive in a way that doesn't (hopefully) hurt anyone. Some people have stronger drives than others but I think a key thing is learning how to deal with it in a healthy manner without ever feeling guilty for having those feelings.
 

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100% with you there. I'm still a large consumer of porn and was a young teen when internet porn and PornHub really started to take off. Looking at it now I feel like a cranky old boomer seeing TikToks and thirst traps on Insta of what is essentially softcore porn and thinking "isn't this a little much? aren't there like kids on this app?"

I had access to easy online smut when I was a young age but it still involved purposefully going to NSFW sites to see it. Not to mention making sure no one was home and having to use the family computer so no real privacy either. If I was a hormonal 13 year old now with all the borderline explicit content that's easily accessible on a SFW app on my phone, I'd never leave my house because I'd be constantly cranking it.
 

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with how easy it is to access nowadays, i'm surprised we dont see more teens looking like this:

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I consider myself a pretty progressive person and have a social circle and dating life that reflects the same but something I've noticed among some otherwise open-minded women friends about sex work is how they view the sex worker in comparison to the consumer.

By that I mean there's typically a very pro-sex worker attitude. There's a positive notion of these girls making their own money on their own time and being their own boss which is great and "girl bossing". But at the time they view the men who consume and buy things from these women as gross, creepy perverts.
 

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My hunch is they're petrified their cash cow will be slaughtered so they adopt an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude. It wasn't more than a couple years ago that credit card companies had them by the balls, almost forcing them to enact PG-13 guideline.. until public backlash reverted this stance. As far as the US+UK are concerned, it's still very much a "freak in the sheets, lady on the streets" type of mentality when it comes to expressing sexuality (especially when monetization is involved)

But thotsimp's point stands. It's way too much of a creator-centric platform. I dream of a site called 'fansonly' where you can at least message creators on a 'customer support' basis and content is better categorized so you don't run the risk of buying duplicates. This PPV-in-the-DMs business model is fucking garbage.
 

Koalaland

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It makes sense that they're focused more on their creators, because what they see are accounts bringing them tens of thousands each month, so why would they care if random user #5935 got scammed and blocked by someone?

I think a lot of the issues also come down to what most social media platforms struggle with, investing in customer support and having actual people to help customers with issues. Everyone just wants to build a platform and let it run on algorithms and automated forms, prone to abuse and difficult to actually get help when you need it.

A number of models run great accounts, with clear descriptions of what to expect (nips, pussy etc.), preview pictures and clips (censored if needed) and being generally very active and clear on what things cost and what you get. Presumably they do this simply because they learned it's a good business model for them, otherwise, why bother?

All these VIP and endless PPV in DMs spam suggests more of a 'I wanna make a lot of money but not actually work too hard on it' attitude. Hence also the rise of all these management firms. And I get it, for models with a big following/brand, they'd get lots of DMs and figure it's too time consuming but generally speaking, running an OF is already piss easy but models don't even wanna put in that amount of work and rather give up a share of the profits so they don't have to bother.

OF would never do this but a review system for profiles would be amazing, same as any product page offers. Letting people who've been verified as current or former subs write reviews based on their experiences. As we can see from this thread, creators absolutely HATE the idea of people writing their honest experiences with them, because it might deter 'future idiots'. While this system could also be abused, this is again where actual customer service would come on, real people looking at this stuff and moderating. Hell, some simple cam sites have this and when I see a cam girl with 2/5 stars, am I gonna think she'll do a great performance? Nope.
 

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Looks like someone is already on the case:
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Seriously though, that's a great idea for a website. If it could gain enough traction and become popular enough, it might be a great first step in turning the tide and giving more power to the consumers.
 

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Onlyfans review sites always die or never really deliver important information. The thing is, Onlyfans' main thing is to allow you to get content from the girl you're subscribed to, whether you like it or not falls in the matter of taste and they'll keep hiding behind that. Their role is that of a middleman. It's not onlyfans' fault some girls don't deliver, and even then, you're paying for pics and vids and you're getting them.
 

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Very true. There's this idea that some guys have that since they're paying for content they have some type of ownership over the girl or that they're owed something. I understand there are scammers and whatever but some girls will be very clear about what they do but the guys will still cry anyway. Don't get me started about when a chick gets a reduction lol
 

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I have a question that may seem silly to some, but can a model see if I've downloaded her PPV in the private messages?

There is one model I like to follow and support, and sometimes I chat with her about her vids in PPV, but I don't buy all her videos because it would be an excessive expense.

Should I avoid any reference to her videos that I may have seen on a site like this, or is it more of a hassle to see if the person she's talking to has paid for content? I have no idea what OF looks like from a creator's perspective.
 
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Koalaland

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No they can't tell if you downloaded anything because it's technically not a feature of OF. Some models are trying to make extra buck by offering/selling download links for content you already have access to or have copy-paste notifications about how you're not allowed to download anything but there's literally nothing they can do to stop you from saving stuff, nor can they tell you did it.

What you tell this person in relation to what content you have or haven't seen is up to you. I don't know this person and I have no idea what sort of rapport you have with each other.

EDIT: Since I'm seeing you worded it kinda strangely: Obviously a model can tell whether you unlocked/paid for a PPV in private messages. So if you were planning to act like you've totally bought and watched a PPV you never actually unlocked, don't.
 
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Lol, sorry Koalaland, I'm not a native English speaker, and I have a little trouble with the language, especially when talking about geeky things. Indeed, my question was mostly about the part you answered later. But the first part is also good to know. Thank you again for this!

I take note that I should avoid mentioning a PPV that I would have seen here, but would not have bought. That was indeed the point of my request (but it's good to know that you can download without the creator knowing about it).
 
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I participate in leaks in hopes that others will as well, I can’t buy all the ppvs I want too, so my hope is others will buy and post the content I have not and eventually all will be leaked…it’s kiiiinda worked out that way…also I really really hate feeling ripped off which is what’s happened A lot lately so I’m even more prone to leak leak leak…if it’s someone I know IRL then it depends I may not want to divulge who they are or where there from unless they don’t care. Or straight up ask them if it’s okay to spread some stuff Kerri g them know the chances of getting more traffic coming there way is highly likely…I’ve also leaked some stuff that ends up being used for fake pages and accounts which I never intended or hoped for cause that sham is a scam I don’t condone..always hope to see someone leak a girl I know IRL it’s happened before it’ll happen again…my favourite part is the seeking the thrill of the hunt for new and unseen content
 

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Worrd I’ve been dooped way too many times by this, or received the same video I’ve gotten before or just any kind of shit…I complained to OF once for a refund and it all came down to wording like how legislature reads English but doesn’t mean the same shit all different definitions. It was that technical..I didn’t get a refund but her post/ad was taken down
 
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