lowkey thinking she was scamming you too because the creators can set the price of the video on OF and if you buy it, it automatically unlocks. her telling you to tip $200 to see the video so she can unlock it is kinda weird
Discussion This is why I personally participate in leaking.
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"She's" right (this is probably a "manager" I'm speaking to anyway). I'm not gonna dump a penny on her. Her page is $40/month and most of her posts are spamming other OF pages free trial links. All her self posts are all non-nude single image. I only sub when she has a free trial going lmao
I don’t hate them. I’m a agent of chaos
Her stuff is out there all over the place, too, so F that.
Just to add some further insight into the topic of 'whales' ...
I used to manage a girl on ManyVids for a couple of years. I managed her account in a fair, honest way. Prices for videos were fair. Prices for customs were competitive for a girl like her, and I always made sure that she delivered exactly what the dude asked for, even making her re-record certain parts of the video until she got it right. Always replied to messages and never ever scammed anyone. Ever.
Under my management, she never cracked the Top 100.
Then she decides that she wants to manage her own account because she feels like she's not making enough money. Fair enough. I basically rescued her from poverty and gave 2 years of my life to building her brand for a very low percentage of her revenue. But whatever.
So she started managing her account and replying to messages, etc, but she never changed her password, so I spied on everything she did for a few months.
Man oh man, did I get a wake up call on the state of cucks, incels and whales!!
She raised the prices on all of her videos. Doubled the price for customs. And she would reply to these guys in the most disrespectful, ungrateful and abrupt ways possible. Never really answering their questions. Over-charging for everything. Demanding tips for replying to more than a handful of messages. Convincing guys to pay for customs first, then never delivering. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. She basically managed her account in the same way that most OF thots run theirs.
I was convinced that she was destroying her brand, and ruining everything I'd built for her. But instead of these guys calling her out on her scamming bullshit and unfollowing her, they basically did the exact opposite. They bought more. They rarely complained. They did what she told them to do. They worshipped her.
After a couple weeks of managing her own account, she found a single whale - just one guy - who threw so much money at her, for basically nothing in return. Now she rarely makes any content whatsoever, but she's in the Top 50 on ManyVids every month, just from his tips alone.
And that's just from one whale, so you can imagine that some of the more popular girls have dozens, maybe even hundreds of whales who throw ridiculous amounts of money at them. It's no wonder they don't manage their accounts better, or charge fair prices for shit.
I used to manage a girl on ManyVids for a couple of years. I managed her account in a fair, honest way. Prices for videos were fair. Prices for customs were competitive for a girl like her, and I always made sure that she delivered exactly what the dude asked for, even making her re-record certain parts of the video until she got it right. Always replied to messages and never ever scammed anyone. Ever.
Under my management, she never cracked the Top 100.
Then she decides that she wants to manage her own account because she feels like she's not making enough money. Fair enough. I basically rescued her from poverty and gave 2 years of my life to building her brand for a very low percentage of her revenue. But whatever.
So she started managing her account and replying to messages, etc, but she never changed her password, so I spied on everything she did for a few months.
Man oh man, did I get a wake up call on the state of cucks, incels and whales!!
She raised the prices on all of her videos. Doubled the price for customs. And she would reply to these guys in the most disrespectful, ungrateful and abrupt ways possible. Never really answering their questions. Over-charging for everything. Demanding tips for replying to more than a handful of messages. Convincing guys to pay for customs first, then never delivering. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. She basically managed her account in the same way that most OF thots run theirs.
I was convinced that she was destroying her brand, and ruining everything I'd built for her. But instead of these guys calling her out on her scamming bullshit and unfollowing her, they basically did the exact opposite. They bought more. They rarely complained. They did what she told them to do. They worshipped her.
After a couple weeks of managing her own account, she found a single whale - just one guy - who threw so much money at her, for basically nothing in return. Now she rarely makes any content whatsoever, but she's in the Top 50 on ManyVids every month, just from his tips alone.
And that's just from one whale, so you can imagine that some of the more popular girls have dozens, maybe even hundreds of whales who throw ridiculous amounts of money at them. It's no wonder they don't manage their accounts better, or charge fair prices for shit.
I leak because…well fuck these bitches
You can't consume the content and hate the content creator for doing it
This doesn't make sense lmao
Thots aren't intelligent. They make business decisions based on feelings, not any sort of actual business logic.
Behind every single OF account is a woman who is unintelligent, lacks long-term thinking, and is inherently selfish and lazy with no respect for the humanity of other people.
I recently worked with an OF girl who absolutely confirmed this to me. She wasn't doing OF for any meaningful or productive thing, like supporting her kids, building a house for her elderly parents, or going to school. No, she used the money to fund her "lifestyle" which consisted of going to the gym, traveling around SE Asia with her "digital nomad" (aka: also unemployed) boyfriend, and getting her nails done every day, and "modeling" (aka, shooting 10 second videos for TikTok). She started making some money and moved into a more expensive apartment and got... I kid you not guys... a chihuahua. So here's this girl who walks around in bootyshorts all day, with her purse in her elbow like a princess, fake ass eyelashes and fake ass nails, with a fucking chihuahua. That's what she was doing with her OF money. No thought of saving for the future.
What was her OF like? Basic. It was pretty much the same stuff you saw on TikTok and IG. Very rarely were there any longer videos and if there was, it was to advertise a PPV. Out of 300+ images only 30 were even topless, the rest were just bikini/cosplay. And she charges $15/month. So with her you're paying $15/month to have PPV and videocalls advertised to you, because her feed wasn't fappable.
And her PPV was sent via Dropbox with download disabled "for her protection" but her shit still got leaked anyway.
I started off buying content from her, but eventually she asked me for help. So I was uploading on TikTok for her - for free mind you - and any time there was any little issue I got "😤" faces in DM and just absolute abuse over it, like I owed her the help or something. Like if she wanted 10 TikToks that day but I only posted 9, she made a huge fuss and would stonewall any conversation about anything else and would just nag about TikTok until I posted. And usually after that she would be "busy" and log off Telegram. I was also helping her run an Instagram account, taking custom orders for fetish content. As soon as there was actual money she had all the time in the world, but as far as shooting promo content, business strategy, or resolving our personal issues - she was always too busy.
Running the IG was a lot of work networking with other promoters and answering dozens of people each day, 99% of which were timewasters. This IG page made her $800 in 2 weeks (and I never asked for a cut), but she never appreciated it, just a kissy face emoji and a "thank you" in chat. You'd think she would have made me a free custom video or something? Nope. One time she sent me a premade - during a 50% off sale. And getting her to shoot promo content for any of the social media I ran was like pulling teeth. Absolute laziness and "I don't have time" even though when I checked the EXIF data on the photos, she's taking 20 promo pics in literally 5 minutes. She had time she just didn't want to put any effort and expected money to just appear.
We had other issues too. In late November she ruined a $200 order - that was originally supposed to be $150 but she charged me $50 because it took her two hours to add a BIG BROWN BOX to hide her boyfriend's face. The actual video itself wasn't done properly and they went "off script". Her attitude about it was "so what, shit happens". She also lied when I asked her questions about what happened, telling me like 5 different stories - and when I asked the boyfriend about it, I got a different story from him too. I pretty much stopped buying from her after that. She agreed to remake it but weeks later when I asked about it, there was a huge fucking argument and it never got done.
She ruined a 45 minute videocall too. The call was already paid for in credit (money I sent her and the content never got filmed, so it was content she owed me). 30 minutes into the call she says she's leaving to go out with her boyfriend, and I'm like "wtf lady this is my videocall" and she said I had to pay more. But I had already paid - weeks ago - and I was cashing in. She said I "wasn't special" and "had to pay in advance like everyone else" and said "I'm not your slave". I explained to her that I wasn't like everyone else - I was running her TikTok, IG, reddit, twitter, and helping her with cybersecurity and shit, and that it's good business sense to once in a while give someone who has proven themselves "an advance". She asked "why should you get 'free' videocalls?". But see it wasn't free I had already paid! Total smoothbrain.
At that point I was just fed up with her and told her she had to pay me for my help in content. So we agreed on what she would send me each week. Well as soon as she had to "pay" she was like "stop doing reddit and twitter, maybe even delete the IG." Seriously, as soon as she had to "pay" with some easy content she wanted to delete a $1,600/month business.
The first week she sent a skimpy, incomplete payment. It was actually insulting - she sent 9 photos. The second week, the day before payment was due, she had ZERO content and instead of following the agreement for that week, she wanted to go her own way and send what she wanted to make. I wasn't interested in another incomplete payment, but this time rushed and low quality, so I cut things off with her.
I already knew it was gonna happen that way, so I had a nude video saved in drafts and I just posted it to TikTok and got the account permabanned.
Her business deserves to fail. She doesn't deserve the money. She's hot, sure, but she's dishonest, manipulative, and exploits people. Which isn't surprising; she's Thai and all her boyfriends have been white foreigners. She's that type. She's using him too and doesn't actually care about him, only the status and $$$. As soon as her OF earns her more money than he has, she'll monkeybranch to another white guy. I give it less than 1 year. Oh well.
Almost every OF girl is his way. I'm not sure if OF makes them that way or if they're doing OF because they are that way.
This is the ONLY reason I spend any money on this at all. I am extremely specific.
This is my perspective as someone who's been hearing about OnlyFans on news, memes, Reddit posts and podcasts for years but has never actually joined it and only just found out this forum. TLDR at the bottom.
I somehow accidentally ended up here in when I was looking into how to bypass News Websites paywalls. I ended up on a Reddit thread about how to bypass OnlyFans paywall and this forum was recommended.
I've never joined OnlyFans mostly because whenever you find a girl that you think is attractive and you go to her OnlyFans, you cannot really see anything, not without creating an account and giving them your credit card, at least. There's no preview, no teaser, no trailer, nothing, it's all locked posts that you have to subscribe to to unlock. You're supposed to pay first, decide later.
That's a very anti-consumer behavior. It puts all the power in the hands of the content creator. And this also applies for any professional porn site that does the same, all those sites where whenever you click a video or an actress, instead of showing you a preview or an actress's catalogue the page sends you straight to sign up. You can't do or see anything without signing up. I'm sorry but that's just not right.
And what I'm seeing here kind of confirms that OF is trash (at least for me). I just cannot see the worth in 15 second videos of butt jiggling or bikini pictures, not even when they're for free, least of all having to pay big bucks for a video whose length you don't know but is most likely to be <5min softcore and/or extremely low quality. And that seems to be like 95% of the content in OnlyFans.
Also, except for a few creators, most have their tits out somewhere else online, like on Reddit or PornHub, precisely to advertise their OF. So you're paying for content on OF that the girl is already giving for free somewhere else? And just topless and a few pussy pics (best case scenario a B/G where you can't see anything) are not really enough for me. In theory, on OnlyFans they're supposed to show more. But that's often not the case, and whether it is or isn't, you have to pay just find out whether paying for it was worth it in the first place. So unfair.
And even when they do indeed show more on their OnlyFans it's often behind even more paywalls. Which you guys are telling me are more often than not waaaaay overpriced, if not a straight up scam. If I knew I was guaranteed >10-15+ min videos recorded with a decentish camera and decentish lighting and showing the angles and acts I'm interested in, I'd consider it. But again those seem to be the minority.
I guess there's also the personal connection aspect, but I'm generally not interested in that, and even if I was, there's so many barriers to it, like managers answering for girls, having to tip to message them, the emotional blackmailing for more money, getting personally involved with people who are more often than not not mentally stable, in a service that's designed to get as much money from you as possible, using your own basic human instincts against you, etc, etc, etc, etc. Honestly, it's probably a good thing OF wasn't a thing many years ago, else I might have got burned in one of these.
That still leaves us custom videos. I could maybe see myself paying for custom videos. But first of all they're expensive as fuck for a few minutes of entertainment that -let's be honest- I will eventually get bored of. And second, seeing as I'm picky and these girls couldn't care less for their fans, there's like a 0% chance that I'd get what I'm asking for (after paying for a subscription to them, and then paying a tip to get the privilege to talk to some assistant/manager that will later on relay the information to the girl). Fuck that.
Ironically, there's a few creators on PornHub that I feel would be worth paying for. Because I'm already familiar with their content and I like most of it (so no leap in the dark) and even when I don't like it I can see it's still more or less well done. But guess what, the ones I like the most don't even have an OnlyFans account. All they have is a PornHub account and no other social media. To me that means they're doing it for fun and not for money, which kind of means they're not as interested in joining OF's scammy universe.
There's another few that do have OnlyFans. But their free content on PornHub is already good enough for me (for instance they'll often leave cumshots or their face reveals for the OF, but I don't care about those, so PH is enough).
Last but not least, there's professional porn, which TBH is actually what I generally prefer. OnlyFans and PornHub are mostly for a few content creators that have no analogue (or very few) in the mainstream porn sphere. But even then, their best productions are often the ones they make for or sell to professional companies.
TLDR: Which is all to say, I guess, that I'm only watching OF because it costs me nothing. If it cost me something, I wouldn't be consuming it, because I don't think it's worth the price they're asking for (most is not even worth it even when it's free). And when it is worth it, they're usually leaving enough of it on PornHub that OF isn't really necessary.
I know you guys have different interests and oftentimes professional productions and PH won't be enough and you'll have to rely on OF to get your kicks. This is just my personal perspective on why I'm not a paying customer.
I somehow accidentally ended up here in when I was looking into how to bypass News Websites paywalls. I ended up on a Reddit thread about how to bypass OnlyFans paywall and this forum was recommended.
I've never joined OnlyFans mostly because whenever you find a girl that you think is attractive and you go to her OnlyFans, you cannot really see anything, not without creating an account and giving them your credit card, at least. There's no preview, no teaser, no trailer, nothing, it's all locked posts that you have to subscribe to to unlock. You're supposed to pay first, decide later.
That's a very anti-consumer behavior. It puts all the power in the hands of the content creator. And this also applies for any professional porn site that does the same, all those sites where whenever you click a video or an actress, instead of showing you a preview or an actress's catalogue the page sends you straight to sign up. You can't do or see anything without signing up. I'm sorry but that's just not right.
And what I'm seeing here kind of confirms that OF is trash (at least for me). I just cannot see the worth in 15 second videos of butt jiggling or bikini pictures, not even when they're for free, least of all having to pay big bucks for a video whose length you don't know but is most likely to be <5min softcore and/or extremely low quality. And that seems to be like 95% of the content in OnlyFans.
Also, except for a few creators, most have their tits out somewhere else online, like on Reddit or PornHub, precisely to advertise their OF. So you're paying for content on OF that the girl is already giving for free somewhere else? And just topless and a few pussy pics (best case scenario a B/G where you can't see anything) are not really enough for me. In theory, on OnlyFans they're supposed to show more. But that's often not the case, and whether it is or isn't, you have to pay just find out whether paying for it was worth it in the first place. So unfair.
And even when they do indeed show more on their OnlyFans it's often behind even more paywalls. Which you guys are telling me are more often than not waaaaay overpriced, if not a straight up scam. If I knew I was guaranteed >10-15+ min videos recorded with a decentish camera and decentish lighting and showing the angles and acts I'm interested in, I'd consider it. But again those seem to be the minority.
I guess there's also the personal connection aspect, but I'm generally not interested in that, and even if I was, there's so many barriers to it, like managers answering for girls, having to tip to message them, the emotional blackmailing for more money, getting personally involved with people who are more often than not not mentally stable, in a service that's designed to get as much money from you as possible, using your own basic human instincts against you, etc, etc, etc, etc. Honestly, it's probably a good thing OF wasn't a thing many years ago, else I might have got burned in one of these.
That still leaves us custom videos. I could maybe see myself paying for custom videos. But first of all they're expensive as fuck for a few minutes of entertainment that -let's be honest- I will eventually get bored of. And second, seeing as I'm picky and these girls couldn't care less for their fans, there's like a 0% chance that I'd get what I'm asking for (after paying for a subscription to them, and then paying a tip to get the privilege to talk to some assistant/manager that will later on relay the information to the girl). Fuck that.
Ironically, there's a few creators on PornHub that I feel would be worth paying for. Because I'm already familiar with their content and I like most of it (so no leap in the dark) and even when I don't like it I can see it's still more or less well done. But guess what, the ones I like the most don't even have an OnlyFans account. All they have is a PornHub account and no other social media. To me that means they're doing it for fun and not for money, which kind of means they're not as interested in joining OF's scammy universe.
There's another few that do have OnlyFans. But their free content on PornHub is already good enough for me (for instance they'll often leave cumshots or their face reveals for the OF, but I don't care about those, so PH is enough).
Last but not least, there's professional porn, which TBH is actually what I generally prefer. OnlyFans and PornHub are mostly for a few content creators that have no analogue (or very few) in the mainstream porn sphere. But even then, their best productions are often the ones they make for or sell to professional companies.
TLDR: Which is all to say, I guess, that I'm only watching OF because it costs me nothing. If it cost me something, I wouldn't be consuming it, because I don't think it's worth the price they're asking for (most is not even worth it even when it's free). And when it is worth it, they're usually leaving enough of it on PornHub that OF isn't really necessary.
I know you guys have different interests and oftentimes professional productions and PH won't be enough and you'll have to rely on OF to get your kicks. This is just my personal perspective on why I'm not a paying customer.
My hunch is they're petrified their cash cow will be slaughtered so they adopt an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude. It wasn't more than a couple years ago that credit card companies had them by the balls, almost forcing them to enact PG-13 guideline.. until public backlash reverted this stance. As far as the US+UK are concerned, it's still very much a "freak in the sheets, lady on the streets" type of mentality when it comes to expressing sexuality (especially when monetization is involved)
But thotsimp's point stands. It's way too much of a creator-centric platform. I dream of a site called 'fansonly' where you can at least message creators on a 'customer support' basis and content is better categorized so you don't run the risk of buying duplicates. This PPV-in-the-DMs business model is fucking garbage.
Look at this nonsense. You can't even see how long the two videos are. I bet they're 30 seconds each. OF should get rid of this opacity.
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I found this forum because of my content that was fully leaked recently. I read this thread (and others) and I honestly get it. But after posting full length videos on the wall, in DMs, posting fresh new content twice a day and replying messages every single day for over 2 years, I feel totally defeated. I don't disrespect and actively tell people how humbling it is for me to have support and attention and means to get new things, show new things. I am dedicated and loved doing it.
I do get it though, I'm just saying that while most might leak as a reaction to unfair treatment, I can honestly say that not all of us are lazy and entitled and I worked my ass off to bring value and have a good word for everyone who interacted with me. But in the end it didn't matter.
I do get it though, I'm just saying that while most might leak as a reaction to unfair treatment, I can honestly say that not all of us are lazy and entitled and I worked my ass off to bring value and have a good word for everyone who interacted with me. But in the end it didn't matter.
Preservation is actually a big benefit. There's so many models who seem to believe (or pretend to) that the sub price and everything you pay to unlock only entitles you to look at the content on Onlyfans for the duration of your sub. At the same time, I've seen a bunch of profiles who, from one day to the next, suddenly decide to 'change their business model' and either delete all previously posted content or turn every free wallpost into a PPV.
Like, imagine being subscribed and thinking 'man, I really wanna look at this picture again she posted 2 months ago' but hey, now it's either gone or you gotta pay $10 to 'unlock' that specific post. Emma Kotos did that, she nuked her whole OF, then made it 'free' and all PPV and VIP stuff. If you didn't save her content before, you were shit out of luck. Or models who randomly decide to abandon or close down their accounts, basically eliminating everything on their profile.
It's not just Onlyfans of course. Only recently Sara Underwood closed down her Patreon after several years. A Patreon that had hundreds of high res nudes and an archive with dozens of her travel log style videos going back years. And she did it in such a shitty way that she basically just made a post announcing that it won't continue next month and unless you were already subscribed or even subscribed to the right tier (with videos), there was zero chance to save all that stuff because you couldn't subscribe anymore.
Browsing the forum I was just reminded of that famous line from 'Arrested Development' with Lucille Bluth going: "I mean it's one Banana, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?"
And I feel that a lot of creators have a similar warped idea of the value of things or at least they act like it. Some models drop PPVs every single day ranging from $5 - $50, no one knows what's in them, every description is super enticing and apparently (going by what some people report here) sometimes they're just non-nude pictures, cut up little video clips of varying quality or just previously released content. Essentially, some girls have a business model where they just dump random content every day and I'm 100% certain that most of them have no overview over what they've posted before and for how much. If someone were to just buy every single PPV that's being sent, they'd rack up hundreds of dollars per week with possibly a handful of pictures and video clips, which may or may not be 'new'. So that begs the question, what do they think their content is worth?
So how is anyone supposed to feel bad for leaking when there's no sense of what things are worth anymore?
And I feel that a lot of creators have a similar warped idea of the value of things or at least they act like it. Some models drop PPVs every single day ranging from $5 - $50, no one knows what's in them, every description is super enticing and apparently (going by what some people report here) sometimes they're just non-nude pictures, cut up little video clips of varying quality or just previously released content. Essentially, some girls have a business model where they just dump random content every day and I'm 100% certain that most of them have no overview over what they've posted before and for how much. If someone were to just buy every single PPV that's being sent, they'd rack up hundreds of dollars per week with possibly a handful of pictures and video clips, which may or may not be 'new'. So that begs the question, what do they think their content is worth?
So how is anyone supposed to feel bad for leaking when there's no sense of what things are worth anymore?
So, this is what I think: Sites like this are a godsend. The people working in this industry might say this is piracy and illegal but well they are exploiting the natural biological reactions of men and women too in the first place! Without our biological needs we wouldn't be forced to watch them either. So we are indeed the true victims & they are just taking advantage of our natural reactions.
I never plan on paying these scammers because this industry is impacting the society on a huge scale. God knows how many people are not finding the right partners because they are busy masturbating at home by watching people they will never be with and that too from a very young age. And if you say, it's the fault of people watching porn: it's not, porn is literally shoved down our throat these days when we barely even hit puberty. Our brains are simply not built to fight this shit. That's so many people that could be born in healthy relationships but they are not even born. Instead, since both genders are masturbating these days, the pairs are also not bonding with each other chemically as they should. This is leading to low levels of trust in society and relationships are literally reduced to a joke these days. Let's not even get into male suicide rates and females consuming medicines for mental illnesses or going for therapy.
These people are using the biggest weakness in men and women & they expect millions of $s and a life of luxury? No way. They have blood on their hands but so do we. However, they have full control as they can stop selling nudes & do something else that society values, while we the end-users dont have free will unless 99.99% of the porn disappears-our brains are simply not equipped to deal with it. It's only a change in law that can set everything right but we all know how bad the legal system is. We are near the end is all I will say. Something else is coming
I never plan on paying these scammers because this industry is impacting the society on a huge scale. God knows how many people are not finding the right partners because they are busy masturbating at home by watching people they will never be with and that too from a very young age. And if you say, it's the fault of people watching porn: it's not, porn is literally shoved down our throat these days when we barely even hit puberty. Our brains are simply not built to fight this shit. That's so many people that could be born in healthy relationships but they are not even born. Instead, since both genders are masturbating these days, the pairs are also not bonding with each other chemically as they should. This is leading to low levels of trust in society and relationships are literally reduced to a joke these days. Let's not even get into male suicide rates and females consuming medicines for mental illnesses or going for therapy.
These people are using the biggest weakness in men and women & they expect millions of $s and a life of luxury? No way. They have blood on their hands but so do we. However, they have full control as they can stop selling nudes & do something else that society values, while we the end-users dont have free will unless 99.99% of the porn disappears-our brains are simply not equipped to deal with it. It's only a change in law that can set everything right but we all know how bad the legal system is. We are near the end is all I will say. Something else is coming
It's similar to paying for winrar for me. I've downloaded so much that other people have leaked and have so much from my own collection of subscriptions, that I felt it's time I started giving back. Granted I still haven't paid for winrar.
"Supporting" is not a real thing in this industry, never has been. buyers are a customer, thats it. if they dont understand that, they have a confused version of reality, need help.
Once something like e-thotting became a lway to make a "living", things became the same way every other business is run.
The longer you spend time as a customer, the more you realize how worthless most of this shit really is.
This is something a lot of people on the consumer side forget. A lot of the consumers are lonely and want attention from a woman online, and are not always there to waste money. In other words, they made mistake number 1: belieiving that they will find the connection/affections they need from an online paid source.
^ This.
Look lads, at the end of the day if you want to be able to BUY the things that get leaked on here, and there is a lot of DEMAND (clearly) then the prices get set according to that.
The reason the prices go so high is because there are too many whales blowing money on this shit in the first place.
The real source of the complaints here are why are we even considering buying this stuff in the first place?There is something wrong to result in so much demand in this industry. let's work on ourselves, so we dont waste money on this shit
Women will be women.
I've had countless conversations with sellers who were trying to overcharge. Explaining that they have no overhead; they don't have production costs. I'm willing to pay X amount for the content I'm requesting, but not the price they're charging. So let's compromise? Nope never. "I know my worth." Well apparently you're worth to me is $0 cuz that's what you're getting from me. Most of these girls I don't see after a few months anyway. Cheap girls stick around forever.