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rayeho

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Ok you win! 🤣 knowing the handle is helpful (that’s if there is a handle). Same can be said about knowing the first/last name too. So if the handle doesn’t work then there is the alternative option of first/last name and vice versa. imo first name and/or last name is still the best query.
 

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Good point about the tags but not all posts have tags. i have seen those tags used in the title or plain text of the post but never as a tag like it should be. I’ve seen many posts using the word 4K, but not as a tag. I Usually stumble across these posts unexpectedly. Then when I search 4K I’m like WTF it’s right there I just saw 20 posts with 4K. Frustrating.
 
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For models with three letter names like the one mentioned Ali lee, the thread title should not include spaces or include a / to denote their name with no spaces

Example (Ali Lee / AliLee)

I know there is an effort to remove special characters from titles but I think this would make a difference in searching for these harder to search for names. I think it could also be helpful to "report" a thread title so a mod can change the thread name to accommodate searching since we are unlikely to get 3 letter search
 
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This can be done with tags without "ruining" the thread title, the thread will then appear in search if you use those variations. I often add tags with underscores and without spaces in cases like this.

Anyone with the Simp rank can add tags to their own threads, and Simp Council can add tags to any threads.
 

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Well that only works IF the three-letter-word you're searching for is the model's name and IF the topic creator properly formats the title. Those are two big IFs. And really, it's a lot of extra work when the whole thing could just easily be solved by turning on three-letter-word searches. I mean, everyone gets that's the easiest option, right?
 
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Some longer but common words are also disallowed as search terms. It doesn't seem to be about 3-letter words specifically. The restrictions seem to exist entirely to reduce server load with the additional hope of encouraging better tagging. I agree the restriction is unlikely to change.
 
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+1 for this. I've come across this issue sometimes.

To the admins:
If you're not allowing users to search threads that contains 3 letter words, then don't allow users to create threads that has 3 letter words.

To the users (possible solution):
Search for threads without spaces (if that model has a "surname" too).
 

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Sure I agree but Tags are not used in threads 100% of the time. But a title is required 100% of the time. And when tags are used, they are often common tags that hardly discern the false-positives from the actual content we are looking for. Tags are a great feature when used correctly. From my years of sleuthing several forums I’ve noticed Tags haven’t caught on the way you and I want them to.
What if the mods were to allow 3 letter or even 2 letter searches for two weeks as a test period to see how the site performance is affected. crunch the numbers and maybe make a poll/vote to see if it’s a feature worth adding permanently.
 

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also: these posts are over 10 years old..

of course you could test it in any case..
but there's a little bit more to it than changing one line in the code it seems to me.

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and this is where i have to check out and leave it to the mods.

To me it seems like the fulltext-index is becoming exponentially larger with every 3 letter word indexed, especially if you include posts not just thread titles.
Some guy mentioned using an auto-tagging system for thread titles for this very reason, but again probably a big hassle to put into place.
 
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Seriously. Sometimes I want to see if there's a thread for someone who I can only identify with two or three Chinese characters. Needless to say, no results were yielded.

I had considered searching via Google (site:https://simpcity.su/), but a test with someone with three letters that's even in the name of their thread came up with absolutely bugger all, so that clearly isn't going to work.
 
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JohnQwerty

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No it doesn't. People don't give up after the three-letter seach fails. They search again.... and again. Usually they have to search a few different times to find a new key word to replace the three-letter word. The site is literally tripling the number of searches by omiting three-letter words.