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Walter H. White

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+1 for this. I've come across this issue sometimes.

To the admins:
If you're not allowing users to search threads that contains 3 letter words, then don't allow users to create threads that has 3 letter words.

To the users (possible solution):
Search for threads without spaces (if that model has a "surname" too).
 

Loviatar

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This can be done with tags without "ruining" the thread title, the thread will then appear in search if you use those variations. I often add tags with underscores and without spaces in cases like this.

Anyone with the Simp rank can add tags to their own threads, and Simp Council can add tags to any threads.
 

JohnQwerty

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We can keep debating the technical side of this, but at the end of the day most sites have three-letter-word searches enabled. This is one of the few sites that doesn't. So I can't believe there is some insurmountable technical barrier keeping us from getting this done. Not when the vast amount of other forums have managed it.

EDIT - I just checked three other sites I've been visiting for 20 years. They're now using XenForo and have three-letter turned off. Fuck, whatever happened to VBulletin? I know that 15 years ago I was doing three-letter searches with VBulletin and PhPBB. What the fuck happened? How did technology backslide on this? And how the fuck is GameFAQs with its millions of threads and ancient 90s software allowing three-letter searches when XenForo struggles with it?

I don't know the math here, but I still think this is worth doing. I can't believe the index is going to balloon that much just from going from 4-letter to 3-letter.
 

JohnQwerty

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No it doesn't. People don't give up after the three-letter seach fails. They search again.... and again. Usually they have to search a few different times to find a new key word to replace the three-letter word. The site is literally tripling the number of searches by omiting three-letter words.
 

0x1N

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dorado

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nah most people are searching for 'belle delphine' probably,
i am no expert in the matter but from what i can tell most people aren't aware of the advanced search
and eliminating all the 3 or less words from the search drastically cuts down on all the content per search the server has to go through.
 

rayeho

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Good point about the tags but not all posts have tags. i have seen those tags used in the title or plain text of the post but never as a tag like it should be. I’ve seen many posts using the word 4K, but not as a tag. I Usually stumble across these posts unexpectedly. Then when I search 4K I’m like WTF it’s right there I just saw 20 posts with 4K. Frustrating.
 
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rayeho

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Sure I agree but Tags are not used in threads 100% of the time. But a title is required 100% of the time. And when tags are used, they are often common tags that hardly discern the false-positives from the actual content we are looking for. Tags are a great feature when used correctly. From my years of sleuthing several forums I’ve noticed Tags haven’t caught on the way you and I want them to.
What if the mods were to allow 3 letter or even 2 letter searches for two weeks as a test period to see how the site performance is affected. crunch the numbers and maybe make a poll/vote to see if it’s a feature worth adding permanently.
 

NoNameFits

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Seriously. Sometimes I want to see if there's a thread for someone who I can only identify with two or three Chinese characters. Needless to say, no results were yielded.

I had considered searching via Google (site:https://simpcity.su/), but a test with someone with three letters that's even in the name of their thread came up with absolutely bugger all, so that clearly isn't going to work.
 
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JohnQwerty

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Why? This is the only forum I've been to that forbids 3 letter word searches. And I've been on forums for 20+ years including running my own VBulletin and PHP forums back in the day. I'm fairly certain this forum's software is just plug and play and the 3 letter word block is just some option in the admin panel.
 
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hewo99

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Some longer but common words are also disallowed as search terms. It doesn't seem to be about 3-letter words specifically. The restrictions seem to exist entirely to reduce server load with the additional hope of encouraging better tagging. I agree the restriction is unlikely to change.
 
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