Again, none of that would make the partner a cuck. Cuckolding means the woman can fuck whoever she wants and the man gains arousal/sexual pleasure from that. That's not the case here.
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That I'm not so sure of. Cuck voyeurism is definitely a thing. Cucking vids are a porn sub-genre but a cuckolded husband isn't always consenting to their wives sleeping around.
If the man doesn't consent it's just cheating. Just like in an open relationship, if you don't agree and your partner goes through with it it's just cheating.
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I mean, you described cuckolding as "the woman can fuck whoever she wants and the man gains arousal/sexual pleasure from that" which isn't the exact dictionary definition of a cucked husband. That's basically describes cuck voyeurism.
The dictionary definition of a cuck/cuckold is "the husband of an unfaithful wife". That implies several possibilities where the husband knows about it and gets aroused by it but it's also possible that he may not know or may not approve of it. Therefore, cuckolding isn't exclusively a consensual matter. It can be both cheating and cuckoldry. It can be also cuckoldry but not cheating.
Also, an open relationship's definition is "a marriage or relationship in which both partners agree that each may have sexual relations with others". If one of them all of a sudden gains a conscience or has a moral dilemma partway through their secondary or tertiary relationships and decides they want to go monogamous partway through it with their primary partner, that's just someone who's either very stupid or not mature enough to know what they want in life. It's pretty fickle to change up the rules in the middle of an open relationship - it's better off just not happening at that rate.
I really don't know why I'm debating the meaning of the term cuckolding but it's not cuckolding if one of the partners doesn't know or doesn't agree, that's cheating.
Open relationships weren't part of the discussion.
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My guy, I'm using words in your posts to debate these topics. You're describing things incorrectly for long established words and terms that have existed for probable hundreds of years. If you're going to be able to make a point and support an argument, you can't be coming up with new ideas for what the rest of society understands certain terms to be. I am using dictionary definitions for two terms that you yourself used that were puzzling enough to me to want to speak up and say that neither of them sounded accurate. Cuckolding isn't a hardline definition for a consenting male whose wife is unfaithful. An open relationship really doesn't consist of infidelity, unless you meant open to mean open communication. The words "open relationship" are culturally understood in the western world to mean a relationship where two people are not sexually exclusive to one another.
I'm using the wikipedia definition bud. It can't be cuckolding if the man doesn't agree. Then it's just cheating.
I know what an open relationship is. An open relationship is different from cuckolding.
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So funny that, I just opened Wikipedia and the definition as found for "cuckold" is: "A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife; the wife of an adulterous husband is a cuckquean." Additionally: "A husband who is aware of and tolerates his wife's infidelity is sometimes called a wittol or wittold."
So even Wikipedia couldn't support your claim. I also had no idea what a wittol was until now, but that appears to be the word that matches your false definition of cuckolding. Both appear in the dictionary as well.
Wiktionary, the Wikipedia dictionary also features these terms. Cuckold, wiktionary source: "A man married to an unfaithful wife, especially when he is unaware or unaccepting of the fact." 2nd definition: "(fetishism) A man who is attracted to or aroused by the sexual infidelity of a partner." That latter definition aligns with my describing cuck voyeurism but obviously it's not the primary definition.
And yes, an open relationship is different from cuckolding. But you mentioned it several posts above and I felt inclined to correct you on that because it seemed like your sense of what it meant wasn't quite right.
Last comment because there's absolutely nothing beneficial about this discussion.
The wikipedia page from my country says with cuckolding the man accepts and likes the fact that his partner is having sex with other people.
What? In an open relationship both people agree to having sex with other people. If one of them doesn't agree with the choice in partner or anything else then it's just cheating.
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Alright, so it's established that you may be using a Wikipedia page that you're more comfortable with as English might not be your first language. That definitely crossed my mind as a possibility, if it's true. That may also account for the cultural differences in how women may be perceived at times and why some of your defenses for creators like Lisa are a little more pronounced. Not a big deal. Regardless, you're probably talking mostly with members of this site whose language started off as English and therefore, using contemporary western definitions of concepts like cucking/cuckolding among other things would have probably served you better if you were trying to make a point earlier. Maybe take up the definition of cuckolding on Wikipedia on your country's page as being inaccurate unless culturally your country of origin sees it as exactly that.
I'm not bad at English buddy. The English definition isn't immediately the correct one. I'm from the West. Why are you acting like the English definition is just the truth and I couldn't know any better because I'm a poor sod not from the West?
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I thought you said you made your last comment a post or two above.
There's only one Wikipedia subsite for the English language. There isn't one for British English or some other dialect depending on what part of the western world you're in that I'm aware of. Therefore, if you were providing the supposed English Wikipedia-sourced definition of cuckolding, however dubious I thought it might be since it deviated from the exact dictionary definition I've understood for years, it should appear almost exactly as you described without any particular room for nuance if I was going to try to find it and pull it up for myself. Instead, I was able to find that it supported my previous arguments. If you're using a VPN and it's a foreign IP and it auto-translated that country's Wikipedia definition to English for you, not a big deal either. You still supplied an incorrect definition for cuckolding and it's being brought to your attention.
This mainly started by you trying to challenge useus1234's assertion that Lisa's husband is a cuck. I don't think he's firm in his convictions that he's a literal cuck but this is just sardonic banter because that's how people talk on the Internet. I'm trying to put it out there that you are losing your argument against useus1234 by supplying incorrect definitions of cuckolding even if he's just fucking around.
Jesus bud, you're way too invested in this.
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Says the guy who claimed his last comment was six posts ago. You're also the one defending the creators as if you know them, so I'd say your emotional attachment is greater than my own to these women who strip for our sexual gratification.
How exactly am I defending them like I know them? I don't their content. I have no emotional attachment to them. Saying they don't have to show more than they want to or more than is needed for them to make money isn't even defending them, it's just common sense. Even on a porn forum.
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I mean if it was common sense, it wouldn't need to be said then. Therefore, it seems illogical and unnecessary to bring up that it's their choice from the outset.
All other things remaining true, this is a porn forum dump for Onlyfans content among other platforms where nudity is the expectation. Open discussion around the creators in question so long as it's on-topic and follows the rules is fair game. I lurked enough to see what the discussion threads were like and assimilated into the culture of the site that includes bitching about content creators that either deceive their followers at times, upload low-effort content or hold out on certain things that most of their competition has already taken up. I mention this because I can mostly post about the same stuff and engage with the members of this site without inciting controversy most of the time. I can also say that comments like yours including defending the creators from claims they're not showing enough aren't commonplace around here.
Your motives in defending a creator's right to upload content that only they are comfortable with comes off as strange even if you claim it was based on common sense. It comes off as simping and mildly obsessive.
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Fellas I just wanted to discuss whether the much-circulated threesome video attributed to her is indeed her. Piet nobody's interested in country specific definitions of relationship dynamics that you're is privy to and your secret inexplicable English-language Wikipedia article that's somehow different to ours, why the fuck are you arguing semantics. Her husband lets her shoot pornographic videos and publish them online - that's kinda cucky. And they absolutely are pornographic unless of course you have another esoteric definition of pornography that specifies otherwise. Watch the threesome vid and get back to me lads, cheers
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Yeah, about that - I can't find a good working link for it. Would you be able to mention the name of a good site that has it? I don't think you're allowed to post random links because they're often to banned/forbidden sites so just naming it would maybe a safer bet for you.
I can't give a link and I can't upload it since she zealously issues take-downs of it since it surfaced years ago and I don't want to bring that on the forum. You should be able to find it somewhere. I'd forgotten about it/not cared until today I saw one of her recent vids where she throws back cowgirl on a chair and I'll be damned if it didn't look identical. There was always huge speculation so I'd be surprised if most people here don't at least know about it