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johnbarnes said:
I wouldnt even be optimistic her best content is yet to come, shes 29 in a few weeks, and talks a lot how much she wants to become a mother. Im guessing they are already trying for a kid and they dont seem to have ultra high class lifestyles. They might have already earnt enough money to sustain their lifestyle for the rest of their lives just through investments and certainly enough to scale back and just do sfw twitch streams if she wanted to.
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If they are trying for a family and she won't go fully nude because of that, let me direct people believing that argument to the latest shares by Darth Revan (thanks, btw) that have her showing her bare ass after showering. There's no great taboo she's breaking by deciding to show her tits or pussy where she can hide behind that excuse if that were the real reason. Her spicy content also adds another layer of hypocrisy ("I won't go nude but spanking my ass and rubbing my tits for coin isn't setting a bad example"). If it's about the fear that her eventual son(s) or daughter(s) will find her videos on the Internet, they're not going anywhere even if she cancels her Onlyfans since external video hosters will keep them up unless she's DMCA-happy.

If she wants to capitalize on her good years while her looks aren't wrecked by eventual motherhood, now's the time to deliver by going nude properly. Once she has one or a few kids, she's going to have to deal with the physical toll it will take on parts of her body like her tits and her belly which will hurt her stock. Trigger warning for the whiteknights and the thin-skinned simps out there, I'm going to get a little mean here: a belly with stretchmarks and distension along with tits looking like flapjacks and nipples that clearly show signs of breastfeeding aren't going to be sexy to a non-trivial subset of a creator's fans. I can think of a few creators who were active on Onlyfans for a while, got pregnant/gave birth and then resumed uploading content and there's a clear change in the way their body looks due to what conception does to a woman. Unless Lisa goes for a tummy tuck or other cosmetic surgery to get something resembling her (hypothetical) pre-conception body, she'll lose a certain number of subs because her looks will have taken a hit. Exercise won't fix her belly or tits and she's pretty fit as it is.
 
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We can now add light frolicking and spanking with another woman to the list of things Lisa is doing in her vids (Jenna being her co-star). Again, can't use the "considering starting a family" excuse if that means avoiding certain things that could be detrimental to her future family's development. with this latest one.
 
Santoryu said:
I'll never understand how those girls make so much money without showing anything... It's like Joey Fisher making hundreds of pics/vids only showing her big juggs since years and never taking a step forward.

Well, some gals like Lindsey Pelas or Sarah Underwood showed all the good stuff in the begining and decided to move backwards. hahaha.
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They're making a good amount of money showing nothing so why should they change that? Unless their income suddenly dried up they don't have a reason to show more.
 
PietHein said:
They're making a good amount of money showing nothing so why should they change that? Unless their income suddenly dried up they don't have a reason to show more.
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I think the goal should be to keep expanding your audience instead of letting it taper off or solely making content to maintain your subs count. To do just that will provide a steady income for a period of time but it's also a stupid business model.

If STPeach is a brand that also cares about her fans on some level, phoning in post-shower selfies or workout videos in skimpy clothing for a steady revenue stream that likely will dwindle over time is suggestive of someone who has a bad sense of what it takes to maintain profitability/bankability. Onlyfans, Fansly and Twitch obviously are how she makes money and her name is worth something - therefore, she needs to treat her partnerships with these platforms like a business and brand pairing by using good business judgment and savvy. Whatever market you're in is going to have its own best practices for staying profitable/bankable, but certain things are consistent with most markets and staying competitive includes finding new ways to bring in subs for sustained performance and success on an individual creator level.

A naive Onlyfans creator starting out that only uploads bikini selfies will maybe wonder how she'll be able to make more money because her subs count might be lower than she likes and therefore her earnings aren't quite kosher. She knows Onlyfans is known for porn-level content but she's not comfortable either having sex or masturbating on camera for the world to see. Fair enough. She decides to see what other non-nude creators are doing and takes notes on what they do. Her poses get sexier and more suggestive, maybe she's OK with showing a little skin like sideboob or the side of her ass. Her sub count gets better, but she's not raking in as much as she'd like.

Example continued: Statistically, there are 1.5 million Onlyfans content creators active. She's nowhere in the top 1,000. The ones in the top 1,000 are able to pull in money for a number of different reasons - their name is a brand/recognizable/they're a celebrity, their content is good/diverse, they're attractive, etc. Our example creator is cute enough to be noticed but not worth the coin that other more popular creators are getting because they're mostly doing things she either hasn't considered or has had her own misgivings towards doing. Her reasons might be personal - Onlyfans isn't her primary source of income, she's afraid of what it might mean for her reputation outside of the Internet, she has personal or religious standards she doesn't want to violate. At some point, she'll have to confront these dilemmas and decide if pushing her own personal envelope is worth the prospect of making more money - and the good/bad that comes with it. She might not end up in the top 1000 unless she somehow taps into a weird niche or genre that she can live with acting out for money, but her best chances of getting noticed are ensured when she joins the nudity club at the very least.

Even if Lisa/Peach ranks in the top 1,000 Onlyfans creators, her net worth doesn't come close to that of Amouranth or Meg Turney. Much as we have laughed about Lisa whooping it up with Amouranth and other content creators, this is a promotional strategy on some level to help boost her subs count. This is one way of boosting the numbers but it's not a wave she'll be able to ride forever. The strength of her content is going to probably guarantee her longest-term success in this game and we've collectively soured on what she's up to lately. Her name and brand aren't strong enough on their own to carry her for many years on Onlyfans if she's planning on being around for a while.
 
robertohavito said:
I think the goal should be to keep expanding your audience instead of letting it taper off or solely making content to maintain your subs count. To do just that will provide a steady income for a period of time but it's also a stupid business model.

If STPeach is a brand that also cares about her fans on some level, phoning in post-shower selfies or workout videos in skimpy clothing for a steady revenue stream that likely will dwindle over time is suggestive of someone who has a bad sense of what it takes to maintain profitability/bankability. Onlyfans, Fansly and Twitch obviously are how she makes money and her name is worth something - therefore, she needs to treat her partnerships with these platforms like a business and brand pairing by using good business judgment and savvy. Whatever market you're in is going to have its own best practices for staying profitable/bankable, but certain things are consistent with most markets and staying competitive includes finding new ways to bring in subs for sustained performance and success on an individual creator level.

A naive Onlyfans creator starting out that only uploads bikini selfies will maybe wonder how she'll be able to make more money because her subs count might be lower than she likes and therefore her earnings aren't quite kosher. She knows Onlyfans is known for porn-level content but she's not comfortable either having sex or masturbating on camera for the world to see. Fair enough. She decides to see what other non-nude creators are doing and takes notes on what they do. Her poses get sexier and more suggestive, maybe she's OK with showing a little skin like sideboob or the side of her ass. Her sub count gets better, but she's not raking in as much as she'd like.

Example continued: Statistically, there are 1.5 million Onlyfans content creators active. She's nowhere in the top 1,000. The ones in the top 1,000 are able to pull in money for a number of different reasons - their name is a brand/recognizable/they're a celebrity, their content is good/diverse, they're attractive, etc. Our example creator is cute enough to be noticed but not worth the coin that other more popular creators are getting because they're mostly doing things she either hasn't considered or has had her own misgivings towards doing. Her reasons might be personal - Onlyfans isn't her primary source of income, she's afraid of what it might mean for her reputation outside of the Internet, she has personal or religious standards she doesn't want to violate. At some point, she'll have to confront these dilemmas and decide if pushing her own personal envelope is worth the prospect of making more money - and the good/bad that comes with it. She might not end up in the top 1000 unless she somehow taps into a weird niche or genre that she can live with acting out for money, but her best chances of getting noticed are ensured when she joins the nudity club at the very least.

Even if Lisa/Peach ranks in the top 1,000 Onlyfans creators, her net worth doesn't come close to that of Amouranth or Meg Turney. Much as we have laughed about Lisa whooping it up with Amouranth and other content creators, this is a promotional strategy on some level to help boost her subs count. This is one way of boosting the numbers but it's not a wave she'll be able to ride forever. The strength of her content is going to probably guarantee her longest-term success in this game and we've collectively soured on what she's up to lately. Her name and brand aren't strong enough on their own to carry her for many years on Onlyfans if she's planning on being around for a while.
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If someone makes $2000 a month then maybe they need to go for more lewd things but if someone makes double or even triple digits without showing anything more than what STPeach shows there's really no reason to go for more lewd things unless they think it'll net them even more money.

Sure, but again, if she makes enough money not showing anything and she doesn't really care about making more then there's no reason for her to show more. Also, she can find new innovative ways of making more money without actually showing more.

Sure, nudity may net you more money but as you said, it all just depends on what people are willing to do for money.

If she starts losing enough money maybe she'll change strategies but I wouldn't take this forum as the best example of how people feel about her.
 
PietHein said:
If someone makes $2000 a month then maybe they need to go for more lewd things but if someone makes double or even triple digits without showing anything more than what STPeach shows there's really no reason to go for more lewd things unless they think it'll net them even more money.

Sure, but again, if she makes enough money not showing anything and she doesn't really care about making more then there's no reason for her to show more. Also, she can find new innovative ways of making more money without actually showing more.

Sure, nudity may net you more money but as you said, it all just depends on what people are willing to do for money.

If she starts losing enough money maybe she'll change strategies but I wouldn't take this forum as the best example of how people feel about her.
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Yes, this is a debate I've had with others before and I'm not denying she has power over the creative control aspect regarding what she shows and when. Nonetheless, I am looking at it from a business standpoint and also from a "she owes it to her fans eventually" standpoint with how far she's gone already. Onlyfans is a porn-centric platform and she's not living up to the expectations around those types of content that exist. We keep it civil by airing out our gripes here and continue to let her chart her own path towards what she's comfortable doing.

This also isn't an invocation for her to go into porn, I'd be happy if she kept doing what she was doing but ended up showing full-ish nudity in the process. But this site is brimming with horny guys that like her and both parties (her and us) will be better for it once she ends up making the jump to showing the goods.
 
robertohavito said:
Yes, this is a debate I've had with others before and I'm not denying she has power over the creative control aspect regarding what she shows and when. Nonetheless, I am looking at it from a business standpoint and also from a "she owes it to her fans eventually" standpoint with how far she's gone already. Onlyfans is a porn-centric platform and she's not living up to the expectations around those types of content that exist. We keep it civil by airing out our gripes here and continue to let her chart her own path towards what she's comfortable doing.

This also isn't an invocation for her to go into porn, I'd be happy if she kept doing what she was doing but ended up showing full-ish nudity in the process. But this site is brimming with horny guys that like her and both parties (her and us) will be better for it once she ends up making the jump to showing the goods.
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She owes absolutely nothing to anyone though. I don't think she's ever promised to go nude and even if she did she can still just say no. Just because Onlyfans is more about porn than anything else doesn't mean that every creator has to create porn.
 
PietHein said:
She owes absolutely nothing to anyone though. I don't think she's ever promised to go nude and even if she did she can still just say no. Just because Onlyfans is more about porn than anything else doesn't mean that every creator has to create porn.
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Thats why I dont really mind.

Yes the content is boring AF now but at least she isnt scamming by saying "most ive shown... Naughtiest thing ever.... A bj video" Like scamuranth or nigri
 
PietHein said:
She owes absolutely nothing to anyone though. I don't think she's ever promised to go nude and even if she did she can still just say no. Just because Onlyfans is more about porn than anything else doesn't mean that every creator has to create porn.
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We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I'll continue to defend your notion that she's in control of what content she makes but from a consumer buying standpoint, she's shortchanging people with lewd/implied nude content long-term. Choosing a red line over what she won't do given her existing track record makes her come off as a prude to me. This also makes her a black sheep amongst her competition and nobody all that special in the end, hurting her stock.
 
robertohavito said:
We're going to have to agree to disagree here. I'll continue to defend your notion that she's in control of what content she makes but from a consumer buying standpoint, she's shortchanging people with lewd/implied nude content long-term. Choosing a red line over what she won't do given her existing track record makes her come off as a prude to me. This also makes her a black sheep amongst her competition and nobody all that special in the end, hurting her stock.
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How is she shortchanging people? Has she ever said she's going to do nudity? Not wanting to show nudity isn't being prudish.
 
PietHein said:
How is she shortchanging people? Has she ever said she's going to do nudity? Not wanting to show nudity isn't being prudish.
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On a platform known for porn? Compared to her competition, it's prudish. I also see it as shortchanging because the degree of nudity she's shown thus far and the so-called spiciness of her content sets the stage for that expectation. She's worn the skimpiest panties that are just shy of showing off her asshole. No editing to these pictures or videos. The consistently low-energy content for months at a time brings a lot of this out as well.

No one has to agree with me outright but we've tallied plenty of complaints or wishful thinkers in this discussion thread hoping she'd go nude because they want to see it. There's a ton of OF threads on this site where people are openly lusting for creators to go fully nude that are close to it but haven't or deciding not to pay for their PPVs because the creator's definition of nude doesn't go far enough based on common expectation of what that entails. If the majority of performers on Onlyfans are nude, you either get with the program or get eaten up by your competition. This is a buyer's market and your creators are the ones who need to stay competitive.
 
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I was out of the loop with this hoe but having caught up with her content I am now convinced that threesome vid is indeed her, not only looks just like her but she really does have an identical riding action. Combined with her husband OBVIOUSLY being a cuck (why would he let her go as far as she does publicly but draw the line and the last post?) and that she DMCA takedowns it constantly, all signs point to yes. The only thing I can think of is she apparently said she's not super into anal and she was getting DP'd in the vid. What's the consensus here about it?
 
robertohavito said:
On a platform known for porn? Compared to her competition, it's prudish. I also see it as shortchanging because the degree of nudity she's shown thus far and the so-called spiciness of her content sets the stage for that expectation. She's worn the skimpiest panties that are just shy of showing off her asshole. No editing to these pictures or videos. The consistently low-energy content for months at a time brings a lot of this out as well.

No one has to agree with me outright but we've tallied plenty of complaints or wishful thinkers in this discussion thread hoping she'd go nude because they want to see it. There's a ton of OF threads on this site where people are openly lusting for creators to go fully nude that are close to it but haven't or deciding not to pay for their PPVs because the creator's definition of nude doesn't go far enough based on common expectation of what that entails. If the majority of performers on Onlyfans are nude, you either get with the program or get eaten up by your competition. This is a buyer's market and your creators are the ones who need to stay competitive.
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The funny thing is, I don't think any of those creators really care what we think. There are people making money on onlyfans without nudity, it's not 'go nude or lose'.
 
useus1234 said:
I was out of the loop with this hoe but having caught up with her content I am now convinced that threesome vid is indeed her, not only looks just like her but she really does have an identical riding action. Combined with her husband OBVIOUSLY being a cuck (why would he let her go as far as she does publicly but draw the line and the last post?) and that she DMCA takedowns it constantly, all signs point to yes. The only thing I can think of is she apparently said she's not super into anal and she was getting DP'd in the vid. What's the consensus here about it?
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What video? Also, you do understand that lewdish cosplay doesn't make someone's partner a cuck right?
 
robertohavito said:
It's been continually debunked that any of her videos show legitimate penetration for reasons only she really knows. The DP is not likely real unless this is some holy grail I've never seen before.


In a weird way, Nick might be a cuck if she's using performers other than him in her videos regardless of them being male or female. By dictionary definition, a cucked husband is a guy whose wife is cheating on him. Though we can loosen that definition since this is semi-professional "porn", I see his logic even if it's nyah-nyah tinged.
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Again, she hasn't created any pornographic videos, how's her partner a cuck?
 
This is my bad, wrong thread. I already deleted that comment because it was the wrong discussion thread.
 
PietHein said:
Aside from the cosplay things and the ass pictures what does she do?
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Again, she hasn't created any pornographic videos, how's her partner a cuck?
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This has to be bad faith. She twerks and spreads her asshole behind a thong sticking it in a camera lens for millions to wank to, doing cum countdowns and jerk off encouragement - she's a sex worker, she creates overtly sexual content for money. This is, most sane people would agree, well beyond the bounds of behavior within a conventional marriage, and most everyone, man and woman alike, would consider this unfaithful if it were done behind the other partner's back. In this case it's out in the open; her husband knows it, she knows it, I and everyone else knows it, that makes him a liiiiitle bit more cucky than most men, yeah.
 
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