Guide AI Upscaling/Enhancing

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People on Reddit are reporting that Topaz process videos like 30% to 40% faster with Nvidia video cards over AMD video cards. Another thing to know with Topaz like 65% of the processing is coming from your CPU So a I7 13th gen or I9 12th or 13th gen cpu would be the way to got, Topaz is still not even using much of your cpu and video card it is only using them like 50% to 60% if they increased usage of these your process time would drop 30% to 50%.

I Just got a HP Victus 15L with Ryzen 7 5700g 32gb 3200mhz RX 6600 XT 512gb M.2 and 500w power supply. I tested Topaz with my cpu 3.8ghz to process a 3 1/2 min video would take 3 1/2 hr then I overclocked the cpu to 4.6ghz max overclock recommended for this cpu and processing time for the same video was cut down like 50% to 60%. Overclocking my cpu should me the faster the cpu the faster the processing time so you would need to get a top 20 cpu currently.
 

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Reddit post i found has the rx 6600 xt doing 0.16 to 0.32 spf thats less than 1 hr doing a 600% resolution 25 min to 200% of a 3 min video
My rxt 3060 is the same performance and your CPU is better than mine.
Make sure you are using the rx 6600 xt set as the ai processor in the preference tab and set memory usage to high
 

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Just playing with the Topaz Video AI trial as I just received my MacBook Pro.

It looks like a 32 minute video at 720x400, 30fps would take +/- 150 minutes when upscaled to 1440x800, 60fps (both enhancement and frame interpolation turned on).

Not bad, but not great.
 

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Topaz is the way to go. This is the way.

There's other apps, but nothing compares to Topaz's suite of apps.

Speaking of which, I said fuck it and pulled the trigger on the Black Friday sale. Curious to play with some videos I have on my internal drive to see how they turn out.
 

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I’m using the newest version of Topaz AI enhance. Usually I’ll do 1 pass to clean it up and a 2nd pass to refine/upscale. I’m using a 5 year old mid tier dell laptop with a built in gpu.

Current settings on the 1st pass

Progressive
Proteus MQ
Parameters Auto
Recover detail =70
Grain Amount 2, Size 1

2 pass is just a basic preset with a 2x

This is native quality

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And here’s what get after all my passes. It’s doesn’t have the fidelity of the Spankbang vid I posted.

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No one mentioned Gaia HQ in Topaz Video AI. For me, Gaia is the best AI upscale model in 95% cases (with the exception of extremely LQ videos 600p or lower, in which case I find Iris works better). Also for porn, Apollo (regular not fast) is far superior imo than Chrono. Less artifacts, less warp, and sharper frames (sometimes faster as well). I have Video AI 5.0 so perhaps older versions may not have these AI models.

Try these settings, it'll blow your fucking mind.
 

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Give this thread a visit and look at the recent upscaled uploads of this gentleman. He uses Iris to upscale 600p to 4k (one would need a 4k display to appreciate how mind blowing the results are).

With videos above 600p, like 720p, or 1080p, Gaia is even better than Iris. It does not give the artificial look, and retains all the little imperfections exceptionally well. Perfectly sharp, down to the hair follicles, look at sample screen cap of a 600p upscaled to 4k using Gaia:



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You're lucky I'm playing around with Topaz 5 and I'm not too lazy to crop it first for you and that upscaling didn't take long to do.

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, bunkr wouldn't let me upload anything so it's on gofile so it'll probably vanish in days.

Just note that is an awful source file, especially overblown gamma so it's got a lot of artefacting.
 
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I experimented with double passes and single passes. I have come to the conclusion that single pass is always better in terms of efficiency and quality. These AI models (I may be wrong) were never meant to be ran multiple times. You pick one that's appropriate, you run, and you're done.

With regards to old footage restoration, you are correct. AI can only do so much to restore what could be there, not what wasn't there. If a video is a good quality 480p / 720p, and I mean tack sharp good in those native resolution, you can do quite a bit with them. It's even possible to upscale to noisy 4k. But if they are not even sharp in 480p / 720p, don't bother.

Upscaling is like plastic surgery. A bit is good because no one can discern what's natural and otherwise. But too much and it looks plastic. Therefore, I stick to Gaia for all my needs. Iris is a close second but it is a bit too aggressive for my liking. And other models are simply inferior for realism imo.

Here is my work flow to 4k:
- If a video is sharp in its native resolution, I use Gaia HQ. It is more aggressive than Gaia CG, and I use it because I can really get away with it.
- If a video is not sharp/ is extremely grainy in its native resolution, I use Gaia CG. Gaia CG is just incredible. You can probably blow up an image from 720p to 8k no problem, and it'd be perfectly realistic to the eyes. It is the least aggressive AI model, and my go to.
- I'd consider most 720p / 1080p source OF videos sharp, and can pass with Gaia HQ. I hope that serves as a useful reference to you in determining what I mean by "sharp".

For frame interpolation:
- Apollo (regular not fast) is always the first choice. Chrono is good, but Apollo is far more superior when it comes to non-linear/sporadic movements. It introduces less blur, less warp after render, and a smoother, more natural overall image. You can 4x/5x the frames no problem. Check out my recent uploads in Faye Reagan thread for sample.
 
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More findings for those upscalers who care:

- To clarify on my first bullet, Gaia CG remains the AI model of choice for most cases except 2 scenarios:

- When resolution is kept the same (1080p > 1080p, 4k > 4k, etc.): When resolution is kept the same, Gaia CG degrades the image due to compression at medium output, whereas Gaia HQ actually improves the image, and it is the ONLY AI model that is capable of that rn. This is useful when you're trying to only frame interpolate without upscaling (Although an Upscale AI model should still be used in said scenario because it serves as a repair mechanism for Apollo Frame AI model). Never run Apollo/Chrono or any Frame AI model by itself, because the Upscaler, Gaia HQ in this case, will allow you to accomplish this task pretty much losslessly.
- When upscaling beyond 4k: When trying to upscale an image from 4k > 4.1k, or 4k > 8k, Gaia HQ is the Upscaler of choice simply because virtually all native 4k videos are sharp enough to be used with Gaia HQ. Also ditch Apollo for Aion for 4k+, Aion is basically Apollo for extremely hi def videos.
 
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It depends on what one would define as "better". If you're going for sharpness, sure, Iris and artemis can yield perfectly sharp results but they come at a great cost. Both Artemis and Iris are aggressive skin softeners and denoiser. Whereas Proteus, another popular model for low quality videos, is an aggressive sharpener and dehazer. They all have their own unique qualities, or flaws depending on the person. If it looks good to you go for it. But if the goal is to preserve fine details, such as freckles, and blemishes, then Gaia is the way (1080p and up). Anything lower I don't even bother, waste of time imo.
 

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Question (Hopefully you answer before the mods see because they delete every comment I post), If you upscaled it from 480 to 720 and then upscaled it again from 720 to 1080, would that work/turn out alright?

And If you could, explain the different input video quality, type, and artifact type? To me, there seems to not be an artifact type that is really well rounded so I am curious which one would work best, say for videos from 5-7 years ago....
 
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