Discussion Agencies are ruining OF for me...
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Yes, and they always either block me or ignore me, or reply: ābabe, why donāt you believe meš?ā
yes,but is pointless becouse they block you or play dumb also person on other side must be borderline sociopat day after day scamming people pretending you are a woman? you must be really without any empathy to do this job
Just wanna add to this: be aware managers can ask models for confirmation stuff, like i subed to one girl from ukrain, i dident ask for it but shortly after i subed she sent me pic of her writing my name on her boobs, like: see its me! No its agency run account iam 99% sure ^^ her chatting dosent add up, dosent respond much when i write in ukrainian etc
doesn't matter if it's against of's tos. if u're a creator they keep shifting the goal posts for you while paying customers like us they're tell us o nothing we can do
Iāve noticed a few Verge girls actually have it in their pageās bio that their āteamā or whatever has permission to message for them. I wanna give them at least a little props for that, but it seems like theyāre still somewhat selling the illusion youāre talking to them.
As far as agency giveaways, I donāt think being Available Now 24/7 is a huge one. Iāve followed a few accounts where the model/assistant must just have OF open on their phone all the time, cuz it would take hours, sometimes days, to get a response from them. But it always shows as Available Now. I figured it was a tactic for the tip-to-message crowd to engage them all the time cuz they always look like theyāre on.
To me, the easiest tell by far is response time. If youāre suspicious, send dms at all hours of the day and look at how long it takes to get something back.Wake up at 3 am to pee, send a dm. Wake up at 6:30 am to get ready for work, send a dm. Lunch break, send a dm. If itās always quick, run. I did this once after a model switched agencies and everything changed overnight. Very obvious it wasnāt her anymore.
I mean Agencies are not bad in general because I would probably say that a creator with already only 30-50 DMs cant answer everyone quickly anymore. Especially if you want a PPV, a Custom or anything like that. The problem with the Agencies is the price you have to pay.
PPVs became more and more expensive. Nobody can tell me that 30ā¬ per Video is a decent price, especially because lots of OF creators you have to pay for, dont even have any videos on the regular feed which are longer than a minute.
The other Problem is, who can I still trust on OnlyFans? I even found Creators with only 500 - 1.000 Likes in total and they are constantly Online and always spam me with mass DMs.
I really have to admit that the best OF creators are those wo cant fully live from doing OnlyFans only. They actually talk with you about regular things, they dont try to force the conversation in a direction where you would have to unlock something. Just sharing regular things, taste of music and things like that.
I especially hate those models that force you to pay for your subscription, even though they have nothing to offer besides spamming you with PPVs. Oh thanks, I pay that Im getting allowed to pay even more because you dont post anything besides short videos. I also never purchase any random spam PPVs without a picture or if small bundles. As soon as there are 2 videos you cant see the length of the videos anymore. I once made the mistake on both situations. If there is no picture or preview you pretty much get an ass boring video and if there are more videos, you often overpay for 2-3 minute videos.
I personally think OF became really crazy because the "best" models sell their stuff for such an expensive price and all that started with the agencies. No video is worth more than 3-5ā¬ but some creators even want you to pay 80ā¬ for a 7 minute video.
PPVs became more and more expensive. Nobody can tell me that 30ā¬ per Video is a decent price, especially because lots of OF creators you have to pay for, dont even have any videos on the regular feed which are longer than a minute.
The other Problem is, who can I still trust on OnlyFans? I even found Creators with only 500 - 1.000 Likes in total and they are constantly Online and always spam me with mass DMs.
I really have to admit that the best OF creators are those wo cant fully live from doing OnlyFans only. They actually talk with you about regular things, they dont try to force the conversation in a direction where you would have to unlock something. Just sharing regular things, taste of music and things like that.
I especially hate those models that force you to pay for your subscription, even though they have nothing to offer besides spamming you with PPVs. Oh thanks, I pay that Im getting allowed to pay even more because you dont post anything besides short videos. I also never purchase any random spam PPVs without a picture or if small bundles. As soon as there are 2 videos you cant see the length of the videos anymore. I once made the mistake on both situations. If there is no picture or preview you pretty much get an ass boring video and if there are more videos, you often overpay for 2-3 minute videos.
I personally think OF became really crazy because the "best" models sell their stuff for such an expensive price and all that started with the agencies. No video is worth more than 3-5ā¬ but some creators even want you to pay 80ā¬ for a 7 minute video.
"I mean Agencies are not bad in general ".
what??? NO. They are whats killing OF. I have a few accounts that i follow that i know are legit real. Yay it may take a bit some days to reply/respond but man ill take that over an agency any day
See, that depends on what you are looking for. I understand what he's saying.
I'm strictly transactional about my porn, for example.
I see some preview that I like on reddit or whatever, I go to the creator's OF and subscribe (well, if I didn't find it for free first), I DM her asking for a PPV, she sends me the unlock, I send her the money. I'm not looking for anything else.
If she puts out good content consistently I stay subbed, if not I dip after a month.
That's about it. Customs I do rarely, and only on MV.
That's why I don't mind agencies, tbh. Matter of fact, them being available 24/7 becomes a benefit.
But if you're in the other camp that's looking for a "girlfriend experience" - yea, I understand how agencies can be a big problem.
1- What she is doing is scamming when she posts on social media and says, āCome talk to me.ā
2- The agent has a goal, how do I get them to pay to take his 20% so he sends a lot of misleading descriptions, lies, scamming words, anything to take your money
3- The model cannot know what her fans like , the best-selling video is not accurate , because fans send their requests to this man.
4- The content is pricey to take his 20%
5- The model gradually begins to rely on the money that the agent takes from intimate conversations and recycling old videos instead of making more new videos.
So it's not just about the girlfriend experience
First of all, I'm not disagreeing with this thread's purpose, I want to make it clear. I absolutely can see the problem for some users, like I said. And you're making some good points. Better that ballroom blitz, that's for damn sure.
I just wanted to bring a bit of a different point of view (or more precisely - defend a guy who tried to bring it and got brainletted, lol). I mean, at the end of a day we're all OF users here.
But #1 ties directly into the girlfriend experience. Because it's directed at people who's looking for it. And like I said, this can be a big problem, but I can't speak for them. I'm talking about people like me here, we exist. I know what I'm looking for, I hit the DMs and I request it.
All the other times that she sends me the "hey babe I'm horny"s, I just ingore it. I know that it's an engagement bait that "she" sends en masse and will unsend later most likely. I don't give a shit about it.
#2 is in the similar vein, treat it like a marketing/spam. Read it carefully if you wanna learn about her discounts and offerings, ask clarifying questions, check the previews on her other soical media. Don't buy anything that you're not confident in.
Now, if they're just straight up finessing and scamming - of course that's awful, but that's just another topic, in my opinion. Anyone can scam.
But if you're saying that there's correlation between agency work and incentive to scam - that's an interesting point. I'll give it to you.
#3 - I'm sure they relay constructive criticisms and suggestions to her? Normally they should. If not, that seems like a problem of this particular page that's being run in a shitty way.
#4 - content possibly being pricier is a good point.
#5 - interesting point, might be a bit overblown tho IMO. Again, that seems like a particular creator's problem. There are self-run pages who absolutely phone it in as well.
So it seems like you are going to find three things. Either it is some guy working for an agency. A guy from India if the agency outsourced the job. Or an AI bot.
Out of those three, I think I rather the AI bot.
Out of those three, I think I rather the AI bot.
The problem is agency cost money so they drive up prices, everyone wants their cut ,agency, creator and OF. This kind of models should go to Manyvids or Clips4sale when procces is automated not have some dude there who after you ask for certain video send its to you for 30$ then 6 goes to OF 15$ to him and rest is for the model so same video would be 15$ on clips site.
Honestly the entire site is fucking cooked, it's been completely ruined. I don't even fuck with obvious agency accounts anymore but even for "authentic" girl-run accounts, it's become the norm to pay a subscription fee to gain access to a wall full of non-nude Instagram-tier garbage while they bombard your inbox with overpriced PPV that may or may not be nude. Everything has a fucking price tag attached, down to even messaging them with enquiries, everything is some LIMITED OFFER or ONE TIME DEAL or BEST VALUE BUNDLE or whatever shit. You unlock a 10 dollar PPV in a moment of masturbatory weakness and it's a 15 second clip of them in a bra duckfacing the camera. It's pure fucking greed and it's become so disgusting to me
Tried something with a couple of agent run pages. First asked for a NN picture for $5 (selfie not from their archive). 1 said no it's too cheap, the other flat refused. Then I offered $100 for a single nude picture, 1 asked for some time I'm assuming to ask the girl if she'd agree, then asked for a $50 down payment. When I asked for a selfie in exchange for the down payment the dude had a meltdown (I guess the girl said no) and said I should just buy one of the ppvs she already sent. "She" got angry I said it not really her. Few hours later I get a pm asking about weekend plans.
The other "chick" refused to send anything other than the Instagram junk she puts up at stupid prices. Got angry and said I insulted her... A few hours later I got a "Hi how are you"
The other "chick" refused to send anything other than the Instagram junk she puts up at stupid prices. Got angry and said I insulted her... A few hours later I got a "Hi how are you"
of doesn't care. not without outside pressure.
I tried with one the same simple selfie with specific pose no way its already in archive,but i demanded it right away first she refused she said she can do it tommorow i said fine i go elswhere. Then "she" had meltdown why i need it now etc. then "she" agrees to do it as soon as possible i repeat how fast i want it, so its no confusion. I pay and then nothing for half hour as i expected i ask whats going on and "she" says "i am at friends house i cant do it"
next day it was her parents at her place. so after 2 days "she" apologise for delay and delivers (which i hoped she wont so i could refund )and says there is markup on right away pictures which she forgot to tell me and 1 picture is 30$ if i want it now. i say fine and her response "not today though, i am to lazy to do it" So what you have here is someone who tries to convince me is to lazy to earn 30$ for single picture in minutes no its not that! its that you are not even close to your account probably in a bar having a drink with your friends or in a club or whateever. while Rajesh is tring to make money for you with archive content you made months ago. you have to be extra mazohistic or into humiliation to except any of this what is going on on OF.