Discussion This is why I personally participate in leaking.

PlayRich76

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even wkth inflation, it's hard to.reconcile these.prices when you could spend $30 a month and get access to hundreds or thousands of porn videos from a traditiomal subscription

they need to learn about volume pricing... tens or hundreds of mjllions of potential customers. cheaper prices will get you lrss per person but more people and therefore more.money overall
 
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I get the impression they're just learning the opposite lesson. Of course I have no idea what a lot of those profiles are actually making but the development always seems to be the same: hike prices, introduce VIP, send more PPVs. I don't know if that's a response to lagging sales or if it's just what they're told is good business now but essentially the only thing I keep seeing is models just trying to squeeze more out of it, to a point where you know only a small percentage of subs can actually consistently buy content from them.

Like Katya Clover literally still runs a traditional paysite that has tons of high quality nude shoots and videos on it, available for a normal monthly fee but then ALSO runs an Onlyfans where she thinks it's normal to ask $40 for a single set or video and all her 'nice girl' interactions are along the lines of 'why you no unlock last message?'

There's really only a handful of models where, even though I don't buy much content from them either, I feel like they're actually running a normal Onlyfans with reasonable prices and where you feel like you're talking to a real person and not a manager or someone who tries to milk you with every interaction.
 
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Onlyfans probably has the same issue that Twitch confronts at the moment, that bit where if you have 50 subs you're already within the top subbed onlyfans due to how skewed the market is. At this point in time I think they have their "darlings", which would be like 10 creators and then there's the focus they've been wanting to give to SFW content, which they haven't left since the failed porn ban.
 

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Bro some of these prices are so high you would be better off going to a strip club instead of buying some pics to smack it to. I swear at some point I question their intelligence and then they go on twitter "my stuff got leaked imma sue cry emoji, sad face emoji, rage emoji" How are these creators surprised when it would be cheaper to buy a house instead of support them. :KEKWlaugh:
 
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I think some of it has to do with the "support" groups as well, with girls constantly advertising each other on accounts and telling each other in the group to raise prices. I've subbed more than once to a creator only to have to block them to get rid of the spam posts every 3 hours advertising some other girl's OF :PepeWhy:
 

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This is why i ALWAYS try to look for NO PPV/Or minimal PPV pages

How some of these girls/agencies justify the PPV pricing/spam/quality is something that I've tried explaining to them & they come out with "Cheap ass, Bullying, & sometimes mute me"

That's why Pornstars like Madison Ivy who has absolutely NO PPV & provides ultra high quality full length content for only $10/m (Currently free while she's away) & Angela White with Ultra high quality content are why i maintain my subscriptions with them

They know how to keep their fans with what they provide & genuinely appreciate the fans
 

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I don't maintain subs anymore. I used to with one person but I was downbad with it lol. Other than that I use different methods to get my stuff and then just scrape the page once I know I unlocked everything I need. Rather spend $3-5 for 3-5 different creators than $10-30 each creator a month. Pornstars are useless unless you are really specific with your needs.
 
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It depends on the user reporting it I believe. You and others have to report it or else it goes unoticed no matter the font. They do take reports serious it seems. I had one free sub creator always demanding payment through cashapp and I reported her for it and she started bitching about all the warnings she kept getting and left the platform.
 

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Thots aren't intelligent. They make business decisions based on feelings, not any sort of actual business logic.

Behind every single OF account is a woman who is unintelligent, lacks long-term thinking, and is inherently selfish and lazy with no respect for the humanity of other people.

I recently worked with an OF girl who absolutely confirmed this to me. She wasn't doing OF for any meaningful or productive thing, like supporting her kids, building a house for her elderly parents, or going to school. No, she used the money to fund her "lifestyle" which consisted of going to the gym, traveling around SE Asia with her "digital nomad" (aka: also unemployed) boyfriend, and getting her nails done every day, and "modeling" (aka, shooting 10 second videos for TikTok). She started making some money and moved into a more expensive apartment and got... I kid you not guys... a chihuahua. So here's this girl who walks around in bootyshorts all day, with her purse in her elbow like a princess, fake ass eyelashes and fake ass nails, with a fucking chihuahua. That's what she was doing with her OF money. No thought of saving for the future.

What was her OF like? Basic. It was pretty much the same stuff you saw on TikTok and IG. Very rarely were there any longer videos and if there was, it was to advertise a PPV. Out of 300+ images only 30 were even topless, the rest were just bikini/cosplay. And she charges $15/month. So with her you're paying $15/month to have PPV and videocalls advertised to you, because her feed wasn't fappable.

And her PPV was sent via Dropbox with download disabled "for her protection" but her shit still got leaked anyway.

I started off buying content from her, but eventually she asked me for help. So I was uploading on TikTok for her - for free mind you - and any time there was any little issue I got "😤" faces in DM and just absolute abuse over it, like I owed her the help or something. Like if she wanted 10 TikToks that day but I only posted 9, she made a huge fuss and would stonewall any conversation about anything else and would just nag about TikTok until I posted. And usually after that she would be "busy" and log off Telegram. I was also helping her run an Instagram account, taking custom orders for fetish content. As soon as there was actual money she had all the time in the world, but as far as shooting promo content, business strategy, or resolving our personal issues - she was always too busy.

Running the IG was a lot of work networking with other promoters and answering dozens of people each day, 99% of which were timewasters. This IG page made her $800 in 2 weeks (and I never asked for a cut), but she never appreciated it, just a kissy face emoji and a "thank you" in chat. You'd think she would have made me a free custom video or something? Nope. One time she sent me a premade - during a 50% off sale. And getting her to shoot promo content for any of the social media I ran was like pulling teeth. Absolute laziness and "I don't have time" even though when I checked the EXIF data on the photos, she's taking 20 promo pics in literally 5 minutes. She had time she just didn't want to put any effort and expected money to just appear.

We had other issues too. In late November she ruined a $200 order - that was originally supposed to be $150 but she charged me $50 because it took her two hours to add a BIG BROWN BOX to hide her boyfriend's face. The actual video itself wasn't done properly and they went "off script". Her attitude about it was "so what, shit happens". She also lied when I asked her questions about what happened, telling me like 5 different stories - and when I asked the boyfriend about it, I got a different story from him too. I pretty much stopped buying from her after that. She agreed to remake it but weeks later when I asked about it, there was a huge fucking argument and it never got done.

She ruined a 45 minute videocall too. The call was already paid for in credit (money I sent her and the content never got filmed, so it was content she owed me). 30 minutes into the call she says she's leaving to go out with her boyfriend, and I'm like "wtf lady this is my videocall" and she said I had to pay more. But I had already paid - weeks ago - and I was cashing in. She said I "wasn't special" and "had to pay in advance like everyone else" and said "I'm not your slave". I explained to her that I wasn't like everyone else - I was running her TikTok, IG, reddit, twitter, and helping her with cybersecurity and shit, and that it's good business sense to once in a while give someone who has proven themselves "an advance". She asked "why should you get 'free' videocalls?". But see it wasn't free I had already paid! Total smoothbrain.

At that point I was just fed up with her and told her she had to pay me for my help in content. So we agreed on what she would send me each week. Well as soon as she had to "pay" she was like "stop doing reddit and twitter, maybe even delete the IG." Seriously, as soon as she had to "pay" with some easy content she wanted to delete a $1,600/month business.

The first week she sent a skimpy, incomplete payment. It was actually insulting - she sent 9 photos. The second week, the day before payment was due, she had ZERO content and instead of following the agreement for that week, she wanted to go her own way and send what she wanted to make. I wasn't interested in another incomplete payment, but this time rushed and low quality, so I cut things off with her.

I already knew it was gonna happen that way, so I had a nude video saved in drafts and I just posted it to TikTok and got the account permabanned. :pikaOMG:

Her business deserves to fail. She doesn't deserve the money. She's hot, sure, but she's dishonest, manipulative, and exploits people. Which isn't surprising; she's Thai and all her boyfriends have been white foreigners. She's that type. She's using him too and doesn't actually care about him, only the status and $$$. As soon as her OF earns her more money than he has, she'll monkeybranch to another white guy. I give it less than 1 year. Oh well.

Almost every OF girl is his way. I'm not sure if OF makes them that way or if they're doing OF because they are that way.
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This is the ONLY reason I spend any money on this at all. I am extremely specific.
 

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They might be despicable but why do you care that they are doing this for vanity reasons. Are you expecting "ethics" in pornography? Or any line of work? She's not a nun or anything lol
 
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It's probably a bit of both, but mostly they are that way to begin with. However, there ARE some good apples in the bunch, just annoyingly rare and hard to find.

As someone who also used to manage girls on various platforms, I feel your pain. It completely changes your perspective on the whole OF thing when you've seen what goes on behind the curtain.
 
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