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Maybe say the timestamp for that?
You can see it around the end, like around 1:15 when she does the spreading. She also showed it off in her OF pics, the caption on those was "I spy with my little eye.. something that is wet?"

She also mentioned it during the stream though I don't remember where, in general she was clearly getting a bit hot.
 
Did she ever actually use the magic wand or butt plug in the stream or was it some lame shit like, "show them." I skipped around the video and didn't see her actually using it but could have been like all of 5 seconds I missed.
 
Did she ever actually use the magic wand or butt plug in the stream or was it some lame shit like, "show them." I skipped around the video and didn't see her actually using it but could have been like all of 5 seconds I missed.
She just showed her toys
 
Did she ever actually use the magic wand or butt plug in the stream or was it some lame shit like, "show them." I skipped around the video and didn't see her actually using it but could have been like all of 5 seconds I missed.
What udyvarus said and also when skimming it, I seem to remember her saying there were certain things she wasn't comfortable doing on stream like masturbating. That said, expect prudishness for the foreseeable future from Lisa because she's communicating hard limits already. This is despite being willing to describe what she likes done to her - i.e. she's OK with telling but not actually "showing", if you know what I mean (and yes, I know she showed her sex toys but how is that worth money?)
 
What udyvarus said and also when skimming it, I seem to remember her saying there were certain things she wasn't comfortable doing on stream like masturbating. That said, expect prudishness for the foreseeable future from Lisa because she's communicating hard limits already. This is despite being willing to describe what she likes done to her - i.e. she's OK with telling but not actually "showing", if you know what I mean (and yes, I know she showed her sex toys but how is that worth money?)
She’s still in the mindset that she’s just doing cosplays & Lewd’s when in reality she past that bridge awhile ago (can’t claim you strictly no nudes when you’re y show us your asshole). Same reason she originally didn’t want to open a OF because it’s too infamous with sex work and that’s not what she’s doing. Once you start showing your asshole & doing the rest of what she does you can’t keep acting like you’re just a cosplayer that sells lewds. Imo, we’re probably at 95% at the progression of what she’s going to do/show us. Unless she does a 180 & embraces that she’s a sex worker we gotta just lower our expectations of what we’re going to get from her. Ppl call Amouranth a scammer but I can’t ever see STPeach doing something like giving realistic dildo’s blowjobs or masturbate over her underwear with a vibrator for us.
 
Its her body she can do whatever she wants with it.

But yea it is pretty fucking weird to be like, "I'm not gonna do nudes and show my boobs but I will grind a doll and wear a g-string while showing 9/tenths of my asshole upclose in high definition."

You're kinda past the point of "no boob pics" when the internet knows exactly what your poopchute looks like but ok.
 
Its her body she can do whatever she wants with it.

But yea it is pretty fucking weird to be like, "I'm not gonna do nudes and show my boobs but I will grind a doll and wear a g-string while showing 9/tenths of my asshole upclose in high definition."

You're kinda past the point of "no boob pics" when the internet knows exactly what your poopchute looks like but ok.
You're on a porn forum. Touting a content creator's right to do whatever she wants with her body doesn't change the fact that most of us are going to bitch about a creator's reluctance to go nude until it actually happens. I can point you in the direction of several discussion threads where this is the prevailing attitude - let's see how you do in them with that same mindset.
 
Its her body she can do whatever she wants with it.

But yea it is pretty fucking weird to be like, "I'm not gonna do nudes and show my boobs but I will grind a doll and wear a g-string while showing 9/tenths of my asshole upclose in high definition."

You're kinda past the point of "no boob pics" when the internet knows exactly what your poopchute looks like but ok.
Of course she can do what she wants. It’s not really about demanding her to do something she doesn’t want to do, but just discussing how far she’s gonna take her content & why we’ll get some things like ass spreads/asshole shot but not pussy or nips
 
Of course she can do what she wants. It’s not really about demanding her to do something she doesn’t want to do, but just discussing how far she’s gonna take her content & why we’ll get some things like ass spreads/asshole shot but not pussy or nips
More and more content creator defenders/protectors are adding the "she has a right to do what she wants" preface to whatever they say as if it's a honor pledge or they think they're gatekeeping the creators from seeing comments like ours. It's pretty tone-deaf around these parts.

Smart women/creators will figure out that they'll earn way more if they take it further and don't need us to directly hound them for showing the goods. I don't know how much she made in total from that livestream not counting what she raised, but $1317.90 isn't all that much compared to what other creators can probably raise in a few hours/a night.
 
She just showed her toys
I remember the OP had a grid based on what she was willing to do and money raised and he updated it from "Toys" to "Show Toys". Before I noticed the tier's wording being updated, I got really excited for a moment there that she was about to start pleasuring herself on camera and was disappointed to find it was a just sexy show-and-tell.
 
but $1317.90 isn't all that much compared to what other creators can probably raise in a few hours/a night.
It might not be considered a lot for some of the largest creators.
But she streamed for ~78 minutes, so 1317.9 * 0,8 (to remove fanslys cut) / 78 = $13.5 per minute.

Compare that to the minimum wage in the us of $7.25 per hour.
It's still a lot of money.
 
It might not be considered a lot for some of the largest creators.
But she streamed for ~78 minutes, so 1317.9 * 0,8 (to remove fanslys cut) / 78 = $13.5 per minute.

Compare that to the minimum wage in the us of $7.25 per hour.
It's still a lot of money.
It is a lot of money, but you have to compare it to her sources of income, not a normal wage worker. That's less than a 100 sales of a PPV which would take her less time to make, and I'm pretty sure she'll sell more than 100 of her PPVs (not counting additional tips and simping). She said that herself last stream too.

The reality is that these 'content creators' are millionaires or soon to be millionaires, which by the way makes it especially insane that guys donate money to them.
 
This is crazy to me, I can't believe she has a husband. Imagine knowing your wife and the mother of your future kids sold her soul on the internet for a couple of shekels and a new house and car. Where your coworkers/friends and family probably come to these sort of forums, see her nude and jack off.

Just an incredible clown world bros. I don't understand the mindset of such a man, how does he cope, how does he live? Or just pretend that it isn't happening... The zietgeist is scary bros, and this normalized sort of behavior will result in the collapse of the west. I suggest you guys prepare.
Soapbox time: if it were me personally, I couldn't handle the idea of a woman I was either dating or married to having a past on the Internet like that. Nasty as this will sound, the thrill of getting to have sex with her or seeing her naked body would be ruined if I could find evidence of either on the Internet in 10 seconds, which makes her damaged goods in my mind. If it involved saying shit like Lisa does on those livestreams, it doesn't matter to me if my significant other was assuming a character or persona to make it happen because who's to say she isn't doing that with me when it's sexy time for us?

Despite this, there are plenty of women in relationships and/or married in sex work who appear to make it work with their significant others and sometimes have their s.o.'s involved in the creative process like Natalie Roush (or worse, Amouranth).

Whether you're a cam girl, Internet model or porn star, each of these "sex workers" have managed to form relationships with men or women that lead to marriage or longstanding partnerships even if divorce/breakups happen. Because porn's been a thing for decades and these relationships and marriages have happened while those careers are active, it hasn't triggered the collapse of Western society. People in these sorts of situations make it work and if they can't, they move on and find someone else to be with.
 
Whether you're a cam girl, Internet model or porn star, each of these "sex workers" have managed to form relationships with men or women that lead to marriage or longstanding partnerships even if divorce/breakups happen. Because porn's been a thing for decades and these relationships and marriages have happened while those careers are active, it hasn't triggered the collapse of Western society. People in these sorts of situations make it work and if they can't, they move on and find someone else to be with.
It still is pretty sad that the last two generations have been forced to believe that the only way to be truly happy is to be rich. Worse yet is a lot of people in industries like streaming online video games or being adult content creators have to make as much as possible as fast as they can for fear that they won't be able to return to a normal job.

The idea of having to work as waiters or cashiers or stocking shelves for a barely living wage is so horrific they'd rather dance nearly naked on tiktok or whore themselves out on onlyfans. I don't necessarily blame them but man, that is really depressing. :Sadge:
 
Soapbox time: if it were me personally, I couldn't handle the idea of a woman I was either dating or married to having a past on the Internet like that. Nasty as this will sound, the thrill of getting to have sex with her or seeing her naked body would be ruined if I could find evidence of either on the Internet in 10 seconds, which makes her damaged goods in my mind. If it involved saying shit like Lisa does on those livestreams, it doesn't matter to me if my significant other was assuming a character or persona to make it happen because who's to say she isn't doing that with me when it's sexy time for us?

Despite this, there are plenty of women in relationships and/or married in sex work who appear to make it work with their significant others and sometimes have their s.o.'s involved in the creative process like Natalie Roush (or worse, Amouranth).

Whether you're a cam girl, Internet model or porn star, each of these "sex workers" have managed to form relationships with men or women that lead to marriage or longstanding partnerships even if divorce/breakups happen. Because porn's been a thing for decades and these relationships and marriages have happened while those careers are active, it hasn't triggered the collapse of Western society. People in these sorts of situations make it work and if they can't, they move on and find someone else to be with.
I couldn't handle the idea of a woman I was either dating or married to having a past on the Internet like that. Nasty as this will sound, the thrill of getting to have sex with her or seeing her naked body would be ruined if I could find evidence of either on the Internet in 10 seconds, which makes her damaged goods in my mind.

Don't be bothered by this, 99.9% of men would have an issue with this on some level, it's natural. Leave the west and go to any third world country and the 'men' who don't think this way are rare.

it hasn't triggered the collapse of Western society

I'm not saying it will trigger it, but it is a symptom of the times. The core family unit is the backbone of society, sex work, which invites promiscuity, linked with broken families is anything but that.

And most of these "sex workers" have terrible relationships with the opposite gender. The ones you may see are the popular ones, and even they have a tough time (lana rhoads, mia khalifa). Using just basic common sense, most men will be turned off by it, so who do they get in relationships with? It's with men who either never thought of them as a long term partner, or a man who's desperate and thinks he won't care (in the future he will), or a man who is so mindfucked by society that he truly believes in the lies of the zeitgiest (does not make a good partner). Keeping this in mind, and looking at opinions online (no stats for this sort of stuff), it's clear how difficult it is to have a relationship as a woman in the sex industry. Furthermore, most sex workers are hemorrhaged by mental illness, drug problems, alcoholism, etc. Not a good base to build a happy healthy family..
 
It still is pretty sad that the last two generations have been forced to believe that the only way to be truly happy is to be rich. Worse yet is a lot of people in industries like streaming online video games or being adult content creators have to make as much as possible as fast as they can for fear that they won't be able to return to a normal job.

The idea of having to work as waiters or cashiers or stocking shelves for a barely living wage is so horrific they'd rather dance nearly naked on tiktok or whore themselves out on onlyfans. I don't necessarily blame them but man, that is really depressing. :Sadge:
Unfortunately to live in Western society, especially with the economy being what it is now with inflation, you do need to make a LOT of money just to get by whether you're working a job that pays very well based on skilled labor or working two jobs to put food on the table. Being rich does solve a lot of the being able to afford shit-type of problems we're going through right now. If one were to take a lower-paying job that doesn't require as much manual or mental effort, they'd have to have resources that allows them to be self-sufficient enough to not require a ton of outside financial assistance.

As for the streamers' fear they won't be able to find work if they had to turn to a normal job, they have a few options: don't do porn or adult-level content, be careful with what they say on stream and don't dress provocatively. This may hurt them if they were trying to draw in viewers/subs because their shit is G-rated, but it's common sense that applies to just about anyone trying to ensure they are hireable down the road.

Keeping it more on topic, there are a lot of women on Onlyfans with actual day jobs that use OF as a side hustle/second job. One of them I remember seeing the other day is a single mom in her thirties with three kids who works as a nurse. That's very humanizing and unfortunate that a mom has to do something like that to keep a roof over their heads. If she enjoys it, fine - but she should consider the impact this'll have on her family if they are able to suss out that their mom is a sex worker even if it meant making a potentially better life for them. I suppose many of them aren't doing it because they find it enjoyable or fun, but to get by instead.
 
I couldn't handle the idea of a woman I was either dating or married to having a past on the Internet like that. Nasty as this will sound, the thrill of getting to have sex with her or seeing her naked body would be ruined if I could find evidence of either on the Internet in 10 seconds, which makes her damaged goods in my mind.

Don't be bothered by this, 99.9% of men would have an issue with this on some level, it's natural. Leave the west and go to any third world country and the 'men' who don't think this way are rare.

it hasn't triggered the collapse of Western society

I'm not saying it will trigger it, but it is a symptom of the times. The core family unit is the backbone of society, sex work, which invites promiscuity, linked with broken families is anything but that.

And most of these "sex workers" have terrible relationships with the opposite gender. The ones you may see are the popular ones, and even they have a tough time (lana rhoads, mia khalifa). Using just basic common sense, most men will be turned off by it, so who do they get in relationships with? It's with men who either never thought of them as a long term partner, or a man who's desperate and thinks he won't care (in the future he will), or a man who is so mindfucked by society that he truly believes in the lies of the zeitgiest (does not make a good partner). Keeping this in mind, and looking at opinions online (no stats for this sort of stuff), it's clear how difficult it is to have a relationship as a woman in the sex industry. Furthermore, most sex workers are hemorrhaged by mental illness, drug problems, alcoholism, etc. Not a good base to build a happy healthy family..
We straddle an interesting/awkward line with the role that online sex workers play in our free time - they provide us with obvious sexual gratification and anything else they have going on in their lives is negligible. We can discuss their life circumstances that may influence their content directly or indirectly but much more than that suggests a deeper attachment that would be perceived as inappropriate, parasocial or just plain simping. If we had a significant other who was actively engaging in online sex work for money, that would probably invite a lot of feelings of jealousy, inadequacy, resentment, etc. We need to acknowledge that the women who perform online services that lead to our own self-gratification are people, too, but they're not our friends so how badly do we need to feel for them and also how outwardly do we need to project our emotions that they're going through something that maybe we've dealt with or know someone who does?

Your last paragraph probably should be used as a cautionary tale for anyone starting an Onlyfans with a focus on sex work (I know Onlyfans has a limited amount of content that puts it outside the realm of sex work). Statistics would be nice if they were available (how many Onlyfans creators based on a sample size rank their existence as "happy" since joining the site and being active, for example). I look at it as, "This isn't nice or pretty or fair necessarily, but this is how the world works for these people in this industry and there's little that can be done to change it."
 
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Unfortunately to live in Western society, especially with the economy being what it is now with inflation, you do need to make a LOT of money just to get by whether you're working a job that pays very well based on skilled labor or working two jobs to put food on the table. Being rich does solve a lot of the being able to afford shit-type of problems we're going through right now. If one were to take a lower-paying job that doesn't require as much manual or mental effort, they'd have to have resources that allows them to be self-sufficient enough to not require a ton of outside financial assistance.

As for the streamers' fear they won't be able to find work if they had to turn to a normal job, they have a few options: don't do porn or adult-level content, be careful with what they say on stream and don't dress provocatively. This may hurt them if they were trying to draw in viewers/subs because their shit is G-rated, but it's common sense that applies to just about anyone trying to ensure they are hireable down the road.

Keeping it more on topic, there are a lot of women on Onlyfans with actual day jobs that use OF as a side hustle/second job. One of them I remember seeing the other day is a single mom in her thirties with three kids who works as a nurse. That's very humanizing and unfortunate that a mom has to do something like that to keep a roof over their heads. If she enjoys it, fine - but she should consider the impact this'll have on her family if they are able to suss out that their mom is a sex worker even if it meant making a potentially better life for them. I suppose many of them aren't doing it because they find it enjoyable or fun, but to get by instead.
there are a lot of women on Onlyfans with actual day jobs that use OF as a side hustle/second job.

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The funny thing is, 95% of people on onlyfans make literally nothing, and less than about 2% actually make worthwhile money. So what's even the point..
 
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