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BBC is not the most popular porn genre, your own personal porn habits notwithstanding. Again, you guys are seriously deluding yourself if you think the average person is into this stuff, but I know believing that is part of your fetish, so whatever. Not denying It's extremely profitable and that there are a lot of guys who are really into it, but you don't understand the economics of the porn business. Niche genres (and niche stuff in general) are often the most profitable, sometimes even more than mainstream material (more devoted fanbase, people who are more willing to pay, etc.).
It isn't weird for Jill not to fuck a BBC. She's not a mainstream porn actress. Most OF/MV models who perform only with their BF/husband aren't getting BBC'd. Again, you might think that, but that's just confirmation bias. Jill is married and likely a multimillionaire. The only real reason for her to do it is if Jack is into racial humiliation (e.g., adam22), and I don't think he is. As for Jill, she said the BBC stuff isn't her thing. The swinging they do is just as much because they are into as it is for money, and they've already made it clear they're very selective about who they perform with and mostly prefer to do FFM stuff.
lol. I'm not hating. To each his own. I just find it funny that there are a lot of supposedly heterosexual men out there whose sexual imagination seems to dominated by black cock. But I suppose it's not necessarily closet homosexuality, although in some cases it's hard not believe that isn't a part of it. Personally, I just don't get it. I'm white, and for me, my natural instinct is to want to see a girl fucked by a guy who looks like me. That's not to say I only watch porn where the male talent is white, but all things being equal, I would prefer that because it's easier to self-insert. It's not a racist or white supremacist thing. In fact, Latin/Asian/Arab/etc. mentally register as sort of close enough for the most part, and I imagine that's pretty common, which is why those scenes aren't necessarily considered "IR", but with a black guy, it's obvious that that isn't me, and typically, that's even played up a bit, so I tend to avoid scenes with black male talent, and I feel like a lot of the guys who are into that, if they aren't gay or bi, have to have a humilation fetish, as well as some sort of racial complex.
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This thread is becoming very educational, analytical and informative i like it
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Blacked.com built an empire and changed the porn industry in the last 10 years. Your comment would otherwise be true before then, but the industry has changed to the point where blondes + BBC is the normal expectation.
My observation about JackPlusJill though is that most of their fans are looking at the dude rather than Jill. That's why they want to see him with a different girl every show. Other folks on here want to see her with other men though, hence this recent conversation.
Besides, professional or amateur, it doesn't matter. BBC is popular either way. So it's weird that people are against watching Jill fuck some BBC.
I'm not against it. I just find the obsession strange. Not immoral (do what you like), but strange. To me anyway.
And nothing about Blacked's success contradicts what I've said. Again, you guys don't understand the economics. You just think successful = most people like it. But it doesn't work like that. Even if they were the most successful porn company, it wouldn't imply that sort of mainstream appeal. Hardcore porn watchers aren't representative of the general population, and BBC obsessives aren't even representative of hardcore porn watchers. Blacked's audience is black guys + white & other non-black cucks. The latter are a small minority of white people. Maybe not the white people on this forum, but in the real world, most definitely. Blacked is successful because they appeal to an extremely devoted but niche demographic who are more willing to pay for their porn at a time when most people just watch free stuff on the various tube sites. Marketing and engagement is also a factor.
Wanting to see JIll with another man is different than wanting to see her with a BBC. And Blonde + BBC is not the "normal expectation". I'm sorry, but this is just your own personal viewing habits skewing your perception. The expectation of the average porn viewer who sees a hot blonde girl is not to see or want to see her with a BBC, and although girls don't avoid IR like in the past, most aren't doing majority IR or fucking a black guy for their 1st or 2nd scene or whatever. Earlier and more often than the past, sure, but that's not the same thing. WM/WF is objectively more common.
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Nah. I'm no internet historian but interracial porn has been around since porn started. It was blondes + BBC back then too. It's an extremely popular genre that I think you're underselling.
I also don't see how you find it strange since it's such a common and popular genre. Pretty much every girl who goes on their camshow has taken BBC before or since. Jill should too.
Of course, it's been around for a long time, and I'm not denying it's popular. I'm just saying it's not popular with the average person.
"Pretty much every girl who goes on their camshow has taken BBC". Yeah, this is obviously not true. Most camgirls either do solo or only fuck their BFs who are typically white. If they branch out, it's usually with another girl. Maybe another couple. A lot of them have done IR, sure, but there are obviously way more WM/WF scenes, and if a girl announces she's going to start doing b/g, my natural expectation would be for the 1st scene to be with a white guy. I wouldn't expect a girl regularly performing with different male talent to avoid black men like in the past, but that's a different thing from saying it's the standard.
Nah, like I said things have changed a lot since Blacked.com blew things up. One of the reactions to the Black Lives Matter movement, especially after George Floyd, was that a lot of porn stars, sites, and agencies started removing the notion of "interracial." Fucking a BBC was the same as fucking some white dude. That's why nowadays, it's actually common for a new pornstar to fuck a black man for their first scene since it's the same as fucking some white dude.
In Jill's case, she's been doing the same thing for years. That's why people want to see her branch out. Since she's a blonde white woman, BBC is the natural fit for her.
I don't see how anything I've said is controversial. IR porn is popular. It isn't popular with the average person. WM/WF scenes are objectively more common. You can go on Pornhub or any tube site and see that there are way more WM/WF scenes than IR scenes. You can even look at iafd and data18 to verify this for yourself. Why is this?
Anyway, no offense, but I think I'm going to have to tap out of this discussion.
While I think it’s very important that everyone go touch some grass today, let’s not forget that JackPlusJill is more about JACK than Jill.
While some people might be interested in Jill doing IR/BBC, and perhaps a few whales would even pay well enough for that niche porn, their business is built around Jack being a stand-in for people’s idealized self (recent weight gain notwithstanding) and doing what their viewers wish they could.
"white women/black man" porn is a 4chan meme. There is a dedicated group who spam it all over the internet as part of a racial humiliation kink that is behind a lot of IR porn. In reality, I suspect it's about as popular as black women in porn (not very).
kink.com also "built an empire" but it's nowhere near mainstream. You don't need that many people to make a lot of money in porn.
Obviously it's hard to tell, but I would bet most people are watching "teen 18+" porn from realitykings/brazzers.
kink.com also "built an empire" but it's nowhere near mainstream. You don't need that many people to make a lot of money in porn.
Obviously it's hard to tell, but I would bet most people are watching "teen 18+" porn from realitykings/brazzers.
I disagree, it's only a handful for sure especially relative to the amount of scenes she's done. Also, of those 6 scenes, there were only what, with 3 different couples?
Anyway, we are arguing about semantics here, you're focusing on a dictionary definition that says "more than 2" is several. Believe whatever you want.
I've been searching for this full video for years but alas to no avail could not find it anywhere except for this clip. I found. Can anyone possibly point me in the right direction to find the full scene in high quality by chance?
Disagree. She was in these orgy videos where she was in spitroast for way longer than just 3 seconds.
Well, I'm glad they're doing new things and putting out new content... with new creators. Hopefully the mfm she's speaking of will be someone new that none of the other creators have produced content with before. Does it really matter that it's bbc content or not? No absolutely not. I'd be impressed with Quinton or Tommy Wood that they've performed with before. It's something new. Did really enjoy the set they did with Mae Winters last weekend. New stuff with new people is what they need. It was getting boring with the same old cast of characters. Heck even Molly Pills has started doing content with male creators other than her husband. So it's time for things to heat up. What really has me wondering about these so called swinger creators (like Mysweetapple, leolulu, Danika and Steve Mori, Miss yennii ect) is when are they gonna step it up? I mean until they've fully swapped, why even bother to watch any more of the content they're putting out together? Seems like a waste of their viewers time and money. But that's just this guys opinion.
Well I’m black and you’re assuming everyone in here or that watches them is white. You’d wanna see her with someone that looks like you, I want the same as well. Not everything is a fetish lmao