just a meme but imagine going either too deep or going in the wrong hole and she instinctively screams out "mods!"
Discussion General VTuber Drama / Gossip Thread
superchibichii
Casual
- Aug 20, 2024
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- 21
i wish someone could give me a nice, non-biased and non-schizo summary of what happened. People here simply post as though everyone has context and has read the 30 pages previously!
buhbus
Tier 3 Sub
- Mar 22, 2022
- 0
- 270
mods, twist his balls
30 page would actually be manageable, but theres 90. Anyway, Froot has been infamous on forums like ours and 4chan for cheating on husband who was in the military and was deployed, it was never really confirmed by any reputable source. The 90 page bomb was her admitting to that fact and then showing logs and receipts as justification as to why she did it. I didn't read all that, I know for a fact the majority of people didn't real all that, the only thing I fucking care about is that apparently she cheated on her husband with at least two guys, I just want to know if its one guy, took a break, and then another guy or did she get eiffel tower like Yuzu. Anyway, her friends defended her, some didn't, etc. The major controversy atm is that allegedly, she was on the offensive against vtubers like Silvervale and Pikamee(Henya) for playing Hogwarts Legacy during that controversy, I don't know much about that either so you should go look that part up yourself too. But because being on the offensive against people playing a video game is rightfully dumb, she is now being attack for it. Those attacking her are using the crutch that Froot have given them, which is the now confirmation that she did indeed cheat on her husband. Was it justified? Thats what the controversy is about
Kson said she hated cheating, made a post about it saying that what Froot did was wrong but she is still on Froot side because Froot is her friend. VShojo management then made her delete the post
Camila was also a Froot defender, because of her stepping into the frontline, she was shot with personal insults toward her mother who has a tumor, I dont know details about that either.
You said summary, I am basically the least parasocial about any of these vtubers, youre welcome
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ricardotoru51
Lurker
- Sep 20, 2022
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- 8
can you give me de tldr of yuzu history?30 page would actually be manageable, but theres 90. Anyway, Froot has been infamous on forums like ours and 4chan for cheating on husband who was in the military and was deployed, it was never really confirmed by any reputable source. The 90 page bomb was her admitting to that fact and then showing logs and receipts as justification as to why she did it. I didn't read all that, I know for a fact the majority of people didn't real all that, the only thing I fucking care about is that apparently she cheated on her husband with at least two guys, I just want to know if its one guy, took a break, and then another guy or did she get eiffel tower like Yuzu. Anyway, her friends defended her, some didn't, etc. The major controversy atm is that allegedly, she was on the offensive against vtubers like Silvervale and Pikamee(Henya) for playing Hogwarts Legacy during that controversy, I don't know much about that either so you should go look that part up yourself too. But because being on the offensive against people playing a video game is rightfully dumb, she is now being attack for it. Those attacking her are using the crutch that Froot have given them, which is the now confirmation that she did indeed cheat on her husband. Was it justified? Thats what the controversy is about
Kson said she hated cheating, made a post about it saying that what Froot did was wrong but she is still on Froot side because Froot is her friend. VShojo management then made her delete the post
Camila was also a Froot defender, because of her stepping into the frontline, she was shot with personal insults toward her mother who has a tumor, I dont know details about that either.
You said summary, I am basically the least parasocial about any of these vtubers, youre welcome
xutox19
Diamond Tier
- Jun 29, 2022
- 6
- 839
she once said she got double teamed, also kinda mentioned she did OF at some point but theres no confirmation on that
thats it, thats the history
oh and theres also some people that beleive shes trans, but theres no real evidence to that
jaywalkingpunkanarchist
Tier 2 Sub
- Sep 21, 2022
- 10
- 180
Does anyone have a clip of what got Shondo banned? What did she say that was against the TOS?
PeopleEgirls
Fan
- Mar 14, 2022
- 1
- 61
I'm gonna believe you when you say you are unbiased but here are some corrections.30 page would actually be manageable, but theres 90. Anyway, Froot has been infamous on forums like ours and 4chan for cheating on husband who was in the military and was deployed, it was never really confirmed by any reputable source. The 90 page bomb was her admitting to that fact and then showing logs and receipts as justification as to why she did it. I didn't read all that, I know for a fact the majority of people didn't real all that, the only thing I fucking care about is that apparently she cheated on her husband with at least two guys, I just want to know if its one guy, took a break, and then another guy or did she get eiffel tower like Yuzu. Anyway, her friends defended her, some didn't, etc. The major controversy atm is that allegedly, she was on the offensive against vtubers like Silvervale and Pikamee(Henya) for playing Hogwarts Legacy during that controversy, I don't know much about that either so you should go look that part up yourself too. But because being on the offensive against people playing a video game is rightfully dumb, she is now being attack for it. Those attacking her are using the crutch that Froot have given them, which is the now confirmation that she did indeed cheat on her husband. Was it justified? Thats what the controversy is about
Kson said she hated cheating, made a post about it saying that what Froot did was wrong but she is still on Froot side because Froot is her friend. VShojo management then made her delete the post
Camila was also a Froot defender, because of her stepping into the frontline, she was shot with personal insults toward her mother who has a tumor, I dont know details about that either.
You said summary, I am basically the least parasocial about any of these vtubers, youre welcome
"The 90 page bomb was her admitting to that fact"
No where in the document does it mention anything about cheating and people would know if they just did a simple ctrl+f "cheating" but even they are too lazy to do that. It has also already been disproved anyway. (Blue = Husband)
"I just want to know if its one guy, took a break, and then another guy"
I think for this part you are referring to the "5 guys" claim or mixing it up. Either way, the "5 guys" meme came from another vtuber named Marimari_en. You can just google this yourself.
"Allegedly, she was on the offensive against vtubers like Silvervale and Pikamee(Henya)"
No this didn't happen and is a popular false claim among culture war people. I mean come on.
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sagatiba00
Bathwater Drinker
- Mar 14, 2022
- 15
- 1,985
I'm gonna believe you when you say you are unbiased but here are some corrections.
"The 90 page bomb was her admitting to that fact"
No where in the document does it mention anything about cheating and people would know if they just did a simple ctrl+f "cheating" but even they are too lazy to do that. It has also already been disproved anyway. (Blue = Husband)
"I just want to know if its one guy, took a break, and then another guy"
I think for this part you are referring to the "5 guys" claim or mixing it up. Either way, the "5 guys" meme came from another vtuber named Marimari_en. You can just google this yourself.
"Allegedly, she was on the offensive against vtubers like Silvervale and Pikamee(Henya)"
No this didn't happen and is a popular false claim among culture war people. I mean come on.
Someone came and did it before me.
Yeah, Froot and Pikamee were never in bad terms. Silver and Froot's whole situation comes from the fact that Froot's FROM the UK and has a trans brother. When HL became a thing, JK Rowling herself went on her first anti-trans schizo tirade, which became the whole debacle around the game. Froot mentioned wanting to donate to Mermaids, but was then dissuaded by her fans when they cited controversies around the charity.
People link that to Froot simply for her not liking Rowling and being pro trans. Slacktivists did their own thing - which she didn't address nor endorse.
If we wanna go by insensitive comments, Silver herself is not exempt from them. When she realized no one in Vshojo was coming to her rescue after picking a fight with the anti-Rowling people after a series of vague but potentially inflammatory tweets she would eventually delete, she made her bed with the chud crowd. And by then, she was already taking potshots at everyone in Vshojo after going on a long hiatus and pretty much not streaming the whole year after the wizard game debacle. Then coming back just to say she would go indie.
IrysMango77
Diamond Tier
- Mar 12, 2022
- 43
- 860
only an idiot would think she was trans. And even if she was... would
I can give you a few videos if you want.
This if you have a lot of time:
Or this that it shorter:
This is a really good video about the "wizard game":
sagatiba00
Bathwater Drinker
- Mar 14, 2022
- 15
- 1,985
This definitely ain't non-biased man lol
Ant's video shouldn't even be mentioned at this point - FalseEyeD pretty much debunked it entirely.
Wizard game vid also leaves out some context, like how she did nor endorse bullying and was dissuaded from donating to Mermaids (when Ant says she run with the money). Pippa was being Pippa. Poor Pikamee is pretty much the only one who caught strays for absolutely no reason at all, which is mainly a japanese media thing - Harry Potter was BIG in Japan during the 2000s (even more than here), and japanese systematic education and media essentially teaches people prejudice and bias are western problems (which a lot of zainichi koreans, burakumins, hokkaindans, and okinawans would protest). She had no idea about the whole anti-trans Rowling bullcrap.
About the only thing actually real out of those vids is slur usage, which she apologized about and never done again (publicly, at least).
Mr Business
Bathwater Drinker
- Oct 14, 2022
- 30
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Ant deepfaked nudes of Froot to try and make her claims seem more legit, the moment you falsify evidence every other claim should be thrown out with it
I don't think you actually watched the video you sent from FalseEyeD. The video essentially said: "Hey, this Ant-hime person made a video on Froot, got a copyright strike, and here are a bunch of reasons why she's a terrible person who did and said a lot of dumb things." That's a classic case of ignoring the actual argument by discrediting Ant-hime as a person, as if anything she says is automatically wrong because of who she is. If we're going to highlight dumb things people have said, Froot isn't exempt either. She has a history of saying problematic stuff in the past, including using the n-word and making transphobic remarks. That's why I linked two videos on Froot's topic. The second one is more neutral.
Regarding the wizard video, I don't think anyone of her size would be foolish enough to publicly say, "Hey, go bully those people." But her actions, like the classic phrase "everyone makes mistakes," send a pretty clear message. As for the Mermaids situation—I'm not sure why you keep bringing Ant-hime into this when the video was from Depressed Nousagi, the only mention of Ant-hime was in relation to the copyright strike, but Froot only backtracked after the controversy. If she knew then (which you'd hope, since she planned to donate a lot of money), she should have been fully aware of the situation. To this day, at least to my knowledge, she still hasn't donated to any charity as she proudly claimed she would.
As for Hogwarts Legacy, the game itself has almost nothing to do with J.K. Rowling beyond being set in the same world as Harry Potter, which is her IP. Going after the game and people who simply wanted to play it is like attacking Froot's friends for supporting her—it doesn't make any sense. If you rewatch the video, you'll remember that people even made a website to track which streamers played Hogwarts Legacy—just so they could harass and bully them, exactly like some people are doing now.
If, after all the videos and information widely available on the internet, you've come to the conclusion that Froot is always right and her only mistake was using slurs in the past, then this will be my last comment on the matter, which to be honest i shouldn't even made because it's not worth it.
Just a tiny bit to add. She said she was double teamed and people thought Eiffel Tower, but Yuzu later said it was a sandwich.
sagatiba00
Bathwater Drinker
- Mar 14, 2022
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She did not make the actual fundraiser. No money was amassed. She can't run away with what she don't have.
If we go by the Wizard video, Silvervale retweeting the pro wizard game people should be seen as actual signal boosting, which is literally worse in actual practical terms.
Ant literally did deepfake porn to try making the cheating situation worse - if you're not above literally forging evidence, you're NOT a creditable source. Going either "it's on the internet, so it's true", or "they tried to deplatform someone, so they must be hiding something!" is conspiracy theorist reasoning.
Nousagi himself admits in his video about Froot that he had no concrete evidence about her cheating or business malpractice. And even if we consider a scenario where they were both true, her then husband was the one in control of the accounts - the second partshould fall on him.
I ain't saying Froot is always right, I'm saying the accusations against her are baseless at best, literally false at worst. You have absolutely every right for not liking her, down from literally just not liking her, no reason needed. But for word-from-the-grapevine shit she didn't actually do, that's some mob shit, man.
the inherent foundation that this drama is built on is that "cheating is bad" because that is the worse thing that a guy can imagine happening to him and his relationship. And would you look at that, 99% of the vtuber audience space is male! There is no concrete evidence and there will never be since we can't even talk to the husband. Everyone is believing what they feel like based on whatever preconceived notion that they already believe in, this will get blown over and Froot will get simpathy sub and donation money. Froot will make it out like a gremlin as her channel was stagnated at 2.5-3k ccv for months, I expect this to increase by minimum 2k
ScaredPepper23
Lurker
- Jul 16, 2024
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You also forgot that when she was a namefag on /k/ she made patches for people, people on /k/ paid for said patches but never received them still to this day30 page would actually be manageable, but theres 90. Anyway, Froot has been infamous on forums like ours and 4chan for cheating on husband who was in the military and was deployed, it was never really confirmed by any reputable source. The 90 page bomb was her admitting to that fact and then showing logs and receipts as justification as to why she did it. I didn't read all that, I know for a fact the majority of people didn't real all that, the only thing I fucking care about is that apparently she cheated on her husband with at least two guys, I just want to know if its one guy, took a break, and then another guy or did she get eiffel tower like Yuzu. Anyway, her friends defended her, some didn't, etc. The major controversy atm is that allegedly, she was on the offensive against vtubers like Silvervale and Pikamee(Henya) for playing Hogwarts Legacy during that controversy, I don't know much about that either so you should go look that part up yourself too. But because being on the offensive against people playing a video game is rightfully dumb, she is now being attack for it. Those attacking her are using the crutch that Froot have given them, which is the now confirmation that she did indeed cheat on her husband. Was it justified? Thats what the controversy is about
Kson said she hated cheating, made a post about it saying that what Froot did was wrong but she is still on Froot side because Froot is her friend. VShojo management then made her delete the post
Camila was also a Froot defender, because of her stepping into the frontline, she was shot with personal insults toward her mother who has a tumor, I dont know details about that either.
You said summary, I am basically the least parasocial about any of these vtubers, youre welcome
sagatiba00
Bathwater Drinker
- Mar 14, 2022
- 15
- 1,985
On that we agree lolthe inherent foundation that this drama is built on is that "cheating is bad" because that is the worse thing that a guy can imagine happening to him and his relationship. And would you look at that, 99% of the vtuber audience space is male! There is no concrete evidence and there will never be since we can't even talk to the husband. Everyone is believing what they feel like based on whatever preconceived notion that they already believe in, this will get blown over and Froot will get simpathy sub and donation money. Froot will make it out like a gremlin as her channel was stagnated at 2.5-3k ccv for months, I expect this to increase by minimum 2k
On the other side, this could end up like poor Camila who caught strays for simply being sympathetic and her shit could get overran by antis. Which I admit is me being sardonic.
My guy, this is false. A few videos posted here debunked that as well. And the bank account for her patches side gig was her shared, so if anything, he'd be as much to blame as her for that. Which none of them are because this is yet anothe rumour.