She’s popular because of what she looks like.
I have so many questions. So how did you know of her and this site? Aren't we all a customer at some point, whether visiting her Twitch/Kick streams or perusing her adult content? You actively seeked out Amouranth and her nudes in order to get here, yet suggest that the realization of her scams came from actually "reading some takes here" not from watching her content
Does that make sense to you?
I think I first saw someone post about her on Twitter
Your definition of “customer” is different than the the generally accepted one.
I didn’t come to this site for or through Amouranth specifically. I saw her threads in the trending, because they’re so active.
It does make sense if you’re not an Amo completionist. I didn’t and don’t watch everything she puts out, and since I don’t follow her OF—not being a customer and all—I wasn’t comparing her sales pitches/marketing copy to the videos themselves.
Before reading all these comments and finding this site? Essentially, yes. Or popping in on her streams for a minute or two here and there to see what she was wearing during “Just Dance” or whatever thing where she wasn’t talking much, getting my fill, and clicking out. Amo specifically aside, model videos with headless/faceless disembodied partners isn’t my thing.
Much like you stretching the definition of the word “customer”…scam is a word painted by others with a similarly broad brush, so the quotes allow for that divergence of opinion. As I’ve never paid for anything of Amouranth’s, wouldn’t call myself a “fan” other than “I like to look at her when the opportunity presents itself”, and view her dispassionately, I think she’s a salesperson/marketer who selectively straddles grey areas in copy like they all do. That’s not a defense or an endorsement, just an acknowledgment of the reality. Add to that the fact that I have no presumption of ethics or authenticity when it comes to sales tactics especially on a titty pics site, and I land on caveat emptor more than “unquestionable scamming in every regard”.
That's fair, there are a lot here that share that similar mindset. I just consider anyone who contributes to her business directly or indirectly (ie: via financial means and/or viewership/engagement) as her customer.
But doesn't the Trending section here direct people to her OF content leak thread, not the discussion thread? That is what indicates what is active, not the discussion thread. That would mean one would have been directed to her pics and videos, opt to bypass that AND her linked socials that contains additional pics and videos, and then choose instead to partake in the discussion thread. That would certainly explain why you wouldn't be aware of her "scams" firsthand.
A picture only consumer, interesting! I've only seen the sales pitch on videos that people screenshot/link etc. so now I'm curious if she actually employed a different advertising tactic for her pictures. Any long time coomers that can confirm? Was her promotion/description of lewd pics more honest than her videos?
You decide to embrace the generally accepted definition of the word Customer, even pointing out my stretching of it- yet shy away from doing the same thing to the word Scam. I guess we're both stretching things today.
She and Nick are some people's lolcow while people here are your lolcow
Entertainment for all! Yes, "surely" Nick and his team don't read this thread. Everything that was discussed here that just happened to manifest in her stream and irl are all just happy coincidences. Maybe someone here is psychic and deliberately moving chess pieces around making things happen
Gotcha.
It’s not as though every piece of content included in her content thread includes whatever “scam” description it’s associated with, where some contrast between description and content would be ever present and instantly recognizable. That’s not the case.
I saw very little of the advertising because I was never really in a place to see them—for example, not following her on OF, not seeing whatever DM PPV solicitations and the like.
I also think your definition of scam is a stretch in a marketing/sales-specific context. All marketing copy is a loose and favorable framing of the explicit truth.
Yes.
Right. To me, “buyer beware” is inclusive of “if you’re not sure what you’re buying…don’t buy it.”
They don’t have to buy anything, so I take issue with people absolving themselves of all responsibility of buying blind based on hope or projection and displacing that completely onto the creators.
How do you know that it’s “clearly” not where her profits come from? You or I have no *real* insight into her books, so you can’t say that (or the opposite) definitively. I wouldn’t take the general sentiment of this forum, which is a niche of a niche of a niche, and say it “clearly” represents anything. With a negative view of a creator and a healthy dose of confirmation bias, yeah…it’s easy for one to come to a conclusion to support whatever they already believe, sure.
Where did I say the tactics were or are “justified”? I’m not “supporting” Nick or Amouranth, unless you count popping in on her Twitch streams for a couple of minutes, and otherwise not engaging with her socials directly as previously described.
Agreed!
Maybe he does! Maybe he doesn’t! I don’t know, you don’t either, and frankly…I don’t care! My entertainment comes from people asserting it as though it were fact.
Not saying they are…we don’t know one way or the other, and can’t know. That’s why I think it’s funny to see the energy expended discussing it, and him. Never in my life—with any hot “celebrity” or well-known hot person—have I seen so much focus on discussing that person’s spouse or partner. It’s atypical, and curious.
Nah, but people love the mob-mentality pile-on (in general, not just Amo) and Machiavellian conspiratorial thinking, so in that context it’s extra easy for people to see what they want to see, and for that to turn into a self-sustaining feedback loop.
Like you, I fail to see how this is somehow difficult to comprehend.I don't believe I indicated YOU said or thought Nick and Amouranth's tactics were justified, I merely said they're using the same reasons you mentioned to justify THEIR tactics.....unless you're saying you're actually Nick
Although you do tend to have the same condescending connotation as Nick does in that October 22 abuse leak, I'd have to look at your posts in other creator threads to make a proper comparison. Maybe Dauragon C Mikado will have a better eye for that, since he is better suited at that investigative CSI stuff. I'm not motivated enough to do that right now, and just as you pointed out, "why would I go to 4-5 different places to see various pieces of content, when they are just aggregated here?"Right. You go with the "generally accepted" definition of Customer, yet refuse the same logic and instead opt with the marketing/sales-specific context with the word Scam. We just did a reversi! I was going with the marketing/sales-specific context with the word Customer while you chose the generally accepted context
He didn't have to buy anything, but he had a valid and reasonable expectation of that purchase.Well you said you don't consume social media much, so of course never in your life would you have seen so much focus on discussing that person's spouse or partner. It's not like you browse social media content, right? You wouldn't know if people are putting so much focus on discussing whoever and whatever in virtual communities and networks/platforms. You wouldn't have seen them interacting, unless you actually do consume it often.
Hell, he was even speculating a ton on that abuse leak. If you try to single out the whiny man-child tantrums, you will hear what he was saying It is truly a sight to behold how someone approaching 40 can behave the way he does. I would bet Nick is the type of "man" who would call his wife fat, ignoring the fact that he looks like a middle aged frumpy lesbian trucker with bad acne See? Another speculation
Cool.
So you’re positing that someone—in this case, me—looking through the content thread would instantly know about her “scams”? That they couldn’t possibly land on the discussion thread without knowing that already? Is that your point?
You’re overthinking this way too much, which is par for the course in this thread. Again, are you saying I HAD to have known that Amo is considered to be a scammer on here based on the sequencing of how I encountered and consumed the threads?
Okay, fair.
How do you mean “connotation” here? I’m implying or suggesting something other than the literal meaning of condescension?
I would hope both/any of you have better uses for your time than researching my posts.
Alright, my bad.
I know you think you’re on to something with this “generally accepted“ bit, but it isn’t the “same logic”.
It applies to everything.
If Amo posts an image/description that says “watch me get titty fucked” and I buy it…and it turns out behind that titty fucking is a pixelated dildo, then I fucked up, she worked the copy to her advantage, and lesson learned. She still got titty fucked, which is all the sales pitch was. You call that a “scam”, I don’t. It’s okay that we don’t agree.
The difference is in the deliberate, specific, and quantifiable “8 inch” claim. “8 inches” is a specific measurement without interpretation. Descriptions of sex acts in videos are qualitative and subject to interpretation.
I said that I’ve never seen so much focus on discussing a partner, and I haven’t—in other places where such things are discussed: bars, hanging out with friends, school, work, news and magazine articles, tv shows, radio, and any of the other 10,000 places topics of conversation come up and are experienced.
Yep, speculation…was there a point amongst all the husband talk buried in there somewhere that I missed?
You might be the one overthinking this. All I did was question the validity of your comment below, because it is an unbelievable feat for someone- in this case you, to be capable of watching her videos while reading the posts in the discussion thread at the same time because that is the only way I imagine someone would not "bypass" multiple options, as you so clearly pointed out. There were 3 link options, you chose the 3rd one, therefore you bypassed the other 2 links on top. I don't know if you have something against the word or what, and like I said you can choose another synonym, but it doesn't change the fact that that is what transpired
No. I said you bypassing the other links in favor of clicking on the Discussion thread certainly explains why you wouldn't be aware of her "scams" firsthand. By skipping over the Content thread, the first thing you ended up being exposed to was word of mouth vs personal visual experience. But you insisted you didn't bypass so agree to disagree I guess?
My bad, that's supposed to tone, not connotation
Amouranth's business depends on exposure and relevancy, correct? I think a more comparable example would be if a favorite figure/celebrity is seen looking at, talking about and purchasing said Ford Mustang at a dealership. Their sheep sees that, and want to buy the same car that their "idol" has. Now me as an outsider, would be curious as to why all these sheep are buying and raving about Ford Mustang. I'd want to see what the commotion is about, with the rest of the crowd. Sheep causes Ford profits to go up, and other figures and sponsors are more inclined to jump into the bandwagon- domino effect. Now even though I haven't spent a dime on Ford, I inadvertently helped drive traffic towards Ford by being part of the crowd that drives traffic to their product. You, me, subs, simps, stalkers, hate-watchers etc, don't we all contribute to her financially directly and indirectly whether we like to admit it or not?
That one is another bad example, and yes agree to disagree but there are plenty of other more blatant examples, moreso in the earlier days of her OF from what I recall. Some here might have a copy of those, but I do remember seeing several within this 500 page thread.
I mean, it's a running meme at this point, but how else is "Watch me get railed by him and I suck his cock after" subject to interpretation when there is no "him" involved
How should one interpret "My wet pussy gets penetrated by him" when again there is no him involved, but also no actual penetration I actually enjoy the play on words if I'm being honest. One of the reasons I tune in is because I'm curious what other ways she and Nick would work the copy. It's entertaining.I was under the impression we were only talking about the livestreaming space, but sure we can expand that. Case in point, the Brad/Angelina and Jennifer Aniston thing. Johnny Depp/Amber Heard. Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce. Kim Kardashian/Kanye. Lots of wagging tongues about these people and their partner/marriage/relationship all over the world.
It so bad we got people trying to post videos that have been posted 2 posts up from theirs
no shot, ho really thought she is doing The Prestige over here
Nick is her body double
We've been lied to, brothers! It was Nick's man boobs we were staring at this whole time
. I can't stop loling at just how bad all of his choices are 