Simp Chat Amouranth - Discussion Thread/Nick's Fan Club

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Yep lots of folks mad at Twitch and thinking about moving to Kick but they better make sure how well Kick is funded. Also, I have heard about the big money being paid to some Twitch streamers to move to Kick but no talk about how the money is being paid out. Kick would be stupid to dump a lump some amount on these streamers. Even if they signed multi-year contracts, Kick would be foolish if they didn't force the streamers to take the money on some type of a long-term payout schedule.
 

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Whoever watched the jerkmate stream, how long was it? How many viewers did she have and was it just her typical Just Dance stream but she wore more revealing clothing? Just curious
 

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Nah it is a bit different. Asmongold has interviewed Trainwreck after the XQC thing and they know what they are doing. They are not going for Numbers like Microsoft did but infrastructure. It is more meta and policies are already on the way like incentive programms, The 95:5 split helps and new Ad changes on the way too.

This can become really dangerous for Twitch. Mixer was never a threat.
 

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She is holding a pool party on tomorrow on one of her other sites and if she does the same thing this pool party will be aired on Twitch right after it airs on the other channel. Maybe that is the big announcement or surprise for tomorrow or maybe is will announce that she is moving to Kick while at the pool party.
 
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This. Pretty sure I heard people were initially streaming porn on Kick and then recently there was an announcement that they were no longer allowing that :PepeLaugh: Sounds like once Kick becomes a solid enough competitor, they're just gonna make changes just like Twitch did to make things more in their favor vs the content creators'.
 

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So according to her twitch stream which just started she is going to have a Kick debut. The fun is about to begin, twitch will at some point take all of these twitch streamers who are going or have already moved to Kick and force them to move to Kick totally. Right now most of them have their toes in both ponds and I think Twitch is going to force them into the other pond, if you are going to leave then leave. The truth about whether Kick will be a real contender to Twitch in terms of viewers and financial strength will come when more switch over only to Kick.
 
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You know I was just thinking about the Twitch streamers moving to Kick. When Twitch started I don't remember them having several mega star streamers in the beginning. I believe several streamers came over from Youtube and started gaining more traction on Twitch. Now several huge streamers are or going to move over to Kick. There is already a big viewer difference between the big streamers and the small ones on Twitch, that difference will be magnified on Kick because these streamers starting point will be so much bigger than they were on Twitch. Will smaller streamers have an even harder time gaining traction. Just a thought. Now back to Scamouranth next possible failed venture, if her success on Kick follows the same pattern as some of her others (Playboy, Loyal Fans, Slushy, Jerkmates and others) this could get interesting.
 
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Stake are being very stupid with these non-exclusive deals, especially paying 100m to xQc. That's like paying an NBA star 100m.... but he can play on multiple teams throughout those 2 years.

I've heard that Stake has paid all these "stars" like Adin, Amouranth, xQc and Trainwrecks like 400m combined. With the 95/5 split, no ad money and paying these big contracts, they're putting themselves into a shit load of debt before they can establish themselves. Not to mention, they're already paying a crap load of money on traffic data, storage data and server fees. Stake literally only has a revenue stream of about 3 billion a year, which isn't enough to run a big gambling and streaming site; it currently costs Twitch around 1.5 billion a year to run its site. Also, Twitch was losing money for about 10 years straight. But Twitch is backed by a company that makes close to 500 billion a year in revenue every year.... so they can afford to be very patient. Stake cannot afford to do that, so that's why you're seeing these big contracts.

Stake are trying to run before they can walk. Here's what will happen:

1. They will eventually change the 95/5 split. People will bitch about it.
2. No major company is going to endorse a gambling site that's backed by cryptocurrency.
3. They will have to change their guidelines so they can get proper sponsorship. People will then bitch and claim they're no better than Twitch.

Mixer tried and failed, and they were backed by a company that was making 90 billion a year in revenue. Facebook tried and failed... and they were backed by a company that made close to 50 billion a year. At the end of the day, running a big streaming site is very risky because it simply doesn't make much money. Kick is no different. If anything, Kick is just a copycat of Twitch.... but they're just trying to get people there due to the 95/5 split (that won't stay).