Discussion Agencies are ruining OF for me...
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I think in the Golden Age you had Reddit girls from r/gonewild and other subreddits monetizing their nudity once OF came along. I'm talking about the girls who posted nudity or fucking for free and then got on OF.
Now it's the reverse. Reddit is flooded with sex workers and OF girls advertising their content-- girls who otherwise have no interest in Reddit. Now they try to be sneaky about it. You go to r/selfie or other clothed subreddits and half the girls have OF pages. Then you look at their profile, and they have spammed multiple subreddits
Just want to also point out that this dude is probably 1 of the many reasons a lot of girls are turning to agencies.
The constant messaging when not being replied too, telling her he is lonely trying to make her feel bad or feel pity, being super demanding. I am against agencies but I hope people can also understand why a lot of girls go to them. Imagine having to cater to people like this all the time. On top of all your other subs.
That entire video is just a sad look into people who really need to help themselves and go touch grass and work on themselves and get rid of the porn brain rot.
Back when I didn't know a lot about OF I figured it was similar to Patreon, but it allowed full nudity. I didn't realize that male "fans" had such a high expectation for personal engagement with the creator.
I don't give a shit about talking to a creator, I just want the goods. I think having completely open DMs drives up the cost of PPV for everyone. TIME IS MONEY, and the creator needs to get paid for their time somehow. Not to mention if they are paying someone else to answer their DMs.
I can only think of a couple content creators that don't have open DMs and don't send out PPV. Ironically those content creators have great content and post frequently, and have completely nude and full on sex content.
I personally would rather have that time, energy, and money spent making better content rather than interaction with the creator.
If no direct contact with "fans" was a thing on OF, I bet you would have less girls with agencies. I bet those girls would escalate to lewder content faster too.
Quite frankly, if your popularity/number of members reaches a point where you can't reasonably respond anymore, just activate a tip to message system and set it to whatever you find appropriate or put a big disclaimer that you won't/can't respond to messages and simply send out content. I don't know why it needs to be a given that every girl should pay strangers to pretend to be them in order to try and sell some extra titty pics.
I agree, see my post right above yours lol
I'd rather just awesome homegrown content at a reasonable price. Feed can be the same, still be able to comment, etc.
Now the whole platform is getting eaten by agencies-- several of which are wannabe pornographers, making traditional style porn just poorly and more expensive (examples: Bronwin Aurora, AvaLoveXo, Layladeline)
But the business model is now: Insta quality plus ads on free page, Insta quality plus ads plus censored content on paid page, with everything else behind a paywall plus scamming in the DMs
The reason why? because it makes a shit ton of money simple really. If you have a shit ton of subs, and you have an agency they take 20-40% of all revenue its advantageous to have a free account/DMs open quite simply the more numbers you have to advertise to the bigger the return. Having to tip to send a DM is just going to deter people from messaging i.e sexting
The guy is pushing a bit but he also paid just to have the honour to speak to her. Having a few word with him is the least she can do.
Honestly the girls'chat seem to be scripted, it is shallow and quickly leads to "buy this overpriced shit''.
Surely it did not used a lot of her time.
The argument of '1 minute' of my time worth 100$ won't make anyone ready to change its mind and spend a dime on you, in addition of being cocky.
And funnily when the guy start to express his disinterest, the girl has a lot of time to argue.
My idea is that it is also an agency talking to this guy: too scripted, shallow, weird arguments to make the guy buy, being vague about content and engaging in an ego battle.
Sure he paid too be on her page, but the way he is messaging "her" is super cringe. It's needy, manipulative and just flat out weird behaviour. Even if he did pay to talk to her by paying her sub you still shouldn't be talking like that. You really shouldn't be trying to defend the way this guy acted in that video. Like I said its a big reason why girls want to go the agency route so they don't have to deal with creepy ass dudes like we just seen. Dude clearly has some issues he needs to deal with. We all know its not the model but someone from her agency following a script to take as much $$ as they can.
That 2020-2021 glory boat of hot and personal interaction and customs is certainly missed, but its demise is the main reason I started posting from asshole accounts that I buy from for others to enjoy too- and at the same time allowing the fan to refrain from spending on when this is the bit. That glory time isn't coming back, and in the majority, the model doesn't directly give a shit. The creator (and agency) feels, that there are an infinite number of new simps this agency can continually bring in, and 'I' will remain this marketable this way. A lesson destined to be learned at a later time in life for the model, and no sweat to the agency.
If I for some reason think the account (she) is tied to fans more so than her manager, or actually runs the account, then I don't leak it or DL and repost it. Sex worker trying to earn vs person trying to "work" while minimally trying and feeding to a third party to peddle determines it IMO.
97% use an agency because it brings clicks for all whatever # of pics for the 3.99 sub, or the free subs for the DM bait, or free account with occasional live bait to paid live. For those that go live and then go paid and put on an 8 second show, the queen of 'having it all figured out'. #Donotsupport
The promos from reddit and connected accounts obvs work well, and that's why legit girls pay 50% of their remaining 80% from purchases to have someone else post their content literally everywhere. Those direct from tiktok or other platforms are almost always just skipping one channel or the other, not the agency doing their promotion and messaging.
For entertainment purposes - the hot but all spam, never live, plenty of reddit usernames accounts that are so prevalent, it's fun to send the explicit shit back to them, even though it's just a worker, they are still the con artist by proxy. Trickle up theory. Make it a thing, haha. Do not pay them. "So, since you're unfamiliar, here's 'you' doing the dirty, and a ready reminder in my DM's of what you're so 'shy' about.
If I for some reason think the account (she) is tied to fans more so than her manager, or actually runs the account, then I don't leak it or DL and repost it. Sex worker trying to earn vs person trying to "work" while minimally trying and feeding to a third party to peddle determines it IMO.
97% use an agency because it brings clicks for all whatever # of pics for the 3.99 sub, or the free subs for the DM bait, or free account with occasional live bait to paid live. For those that go live and then go paid and put on an 8 second show, the queen of 'having it all figured out'. #Donotsupport
The promos from reddit and connected accounts obvs work well, and that's why legit girls pay 50% of their remaining 80% from purchases to have someone else post their content literally everywhere. Those direct from tiktok or other platforms are almost always just skipping one channel or the other, not the agency doing their promotion and messaging.
For entertainment purposes - the hot but all spam, never live, plenty of reddit usernames accounts that are so prevalent, it's fun to send the explicit shit back to them, even though it's just a worker, they are still the con artist by proxy. Trickle up theory. Make it a thing, haha. Do not pay them. "So, since you're unfamiliar, here's 'you' doing the dirty, and a ready reminder in my DM's of what you're so 'shy' about.
Funny enough people like the dude in the video is what killed cam sites, back in the day you would go to MFC and every group and prv room that you could spy on there was a show happening, there was goals for shows on the public chatroom all the time as well. Eventually this weirdos flooded MFC, paying ridiculous amounts of money just to get attention from the girls and to push them away from doing shows, now is happening again with OF.
At least on MFC there are discovery functions and rankings, made the models compete for viewers in a different way than OF. I can't figure out why OF doesn't want to do discovery.
Yeah, OF basically let the girls figure it out on social media.
At this pont i don't think them investing in discoverability will do any good, bc there are so many fake accounts and accounts run by agency that they would just be helping the scammers. OF is still making a lot of money, so they don't give a fuck.
For the past few months i've been calling it the Factory. I live on finding content on Youtube that shouldn't be there genre. And for the past few months they've flooded Youtube with re-cuts of the old content. And i think a lot of it if they aren't english speaking. They hire someone with a script to read over the video in english. It's like the Euro Porn era where they just take the US video and dub the Euro Porn voices over it.
Yet she can't admit flat out that it was agency run and instead talks about "vibes" . I call BS. She is just looking for another Agency. Her account is too big for her to manage alone
An attorney is hoping to file a class action lawsuit against OnlyFans over chat teams, claiming its fraud. He's looking for more plaintiffs to join the suit, if anyone wants to sign up lol.
I doubt it goes the way he wants it to, but I'm interested to see what happens. It was only a matter of time before someone got the idea to do this, even if I don't think there's any real legal recourse to stop the agencies.
I doubt it goes the way he wants it to, but I'm interested to see what happens. It was only a matter of time before someone got the idea to do this, even if I don't think there's any real legal recourse to stop the agencies.
I mean, lots of onlyfans girls are real quick with slapping huge disclaimers and legal warnings on their profiles about Copyright and how they will hunt you to the ends of the earth if you leak something (lol), so maybe lawsuits like this could at least force creators to have to put a disclaimer on their page if it's agency run or if you're likely to communicate with someone who's not the model (but still pretends they are).
They're very happy to have hard rules and strong disclaimers in place to protect themselves, but when it comes to misleading captions, 'blind buy' PPVs and paid agents pretending to be models, then hey, that's just onlyfans and you're stupid for falling for any of it.
They're very happy to have hard rules and strong disclaimers in place to protect themselves, but when it comes to misleading captions, 'blind buy' PPVs and paid agents pretending to be models, then hey, that's just onlyfans and you're stupid for falling for any of it.
xxxparvadi just made a post talking about the agency that was running her account, saying the account went into a direction that she didn't like, that she lost the connection with her fans and apologizing, she said that she cancelled her deal with the agency and is asking her subs to give her another chance.
Another one realizing the agency business model doesn't work on the long run, this agencies just want to make as much money as possible as fast as possible, bc it's not their reputation that is going to the garbage.
Another one realizing the agency business model doesn't work on the long run, this agencies just want to make as much money as possible as fast as possible, bc it's not their reputation that is going to the garbage.
So many creators are gonna get screwed over by the agencies messing up their brand.