Discussion Agencies are ruining OF for me...

[Safety11]

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Exact clues how you know it's a dude doing it. As much as certain fellas bitch about women treating them like chumps, guys are even worse about it. The disrespect is real.
As for the cringe, one of them calls all "her" subs "cutie." Fuck, I wouldn't even want a girl I'm fucking calling me that.

 

[johnnyTremain4657]

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yeah, It's a supply and demand thing. With so much free porn online I'm not sure why guys put up with that OF shit anymore. Most girls put minimal effort in and just sit back and collects paychecks.
We the guys are to blame, stop supporting them, and then they will go away. I currently only have 1 active sub on OF, and it's for a girl I know personally. It's up to you guys but if you keep paying your sub fee to them even after getting duped by an agency the you sort of deserve getting ripped off.

 

[Safety11]

Everyone knows: Why the Fuck would you PAY for porn?

The only answer to me, why subscribe to any one girl on OF, HAS to be that she's something I can't get anywhere else. Yeah I might check a girl out just to scratch an itch, but it usually gets scratched pretty quickly.

 

[oraneknight]

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well someone has to in order for other people to get it for free especially if its someone that has little to nothing freely available

 

[DarthPasma]

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When i want something special, or a type of girl i cannot find on the free way, very specific things actually

 

[gudtoomes]

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OF not just about porn.

A lot of girls would never do porn because of the stigma and lack of autonomy.

A lot of girls however would 'play around' a little with OF, patreon and things like that.

Of those girls, some of them hit a lot of buttons you're into.

 

[Lokote33]

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Well OF is or used to be in the amateur porn/nudes side, which is more interesting and personal than the regular porn or porn sites, most of the girls in OF are normal people with other things to do such as studies or other jobs, or "influencers,youtubers" etc. and it happend to be girls with good bodies that some of them complement your tastes, who won't want to watch how they look naked and doing sexual stuff? The funny thing is that payers believe that they can get somewhere with this chicks lol, I haven't paid for a onlyfans in my life but there are some girls that I know (not personally) that do OF, they are not big so is difficult to find their content, so for many people the only way to watch something is paying or wait till another person pay and share the whole thing (interesting cause there are Onlyfans models who you think are big but even having "good stuff" is not leaked nowhere, maybe do to the expensiveness)

 

[jollibee1]

what are some tell tale signs of agency chat or AI chat behavior? cause i have this one OF chick who streams on chaturbate, and sometimes i'll get responses consistent with reality. like, are you on tonight? and she'll be like yes, in about an hour and then she's really on CB or a not tonight. however, she texts really superficial with excessive white girl emojis and when i ask about them, she says that's just how she texts and sort of gaslights me and acts pissed. like narcissist walking on eggshells weirdness. i find that chatting is usually real superficial, like i'm talking to a programmed AI who will latch onto something i asked and flip it back into a question to me about how i feel about that or change the topic like why are you up so early? (i'm not, it's 8:45 pm). i even got on another account to chat and still inconclusive about how much is real or not. in the end, the chick is really hot and i'm fine paying for private videos or supporting the underlying business owner, but i don't really want to be sexting with a bot or a dude. i'm conflicted enough as this is a total mindfuck.

 

[johnnyTremain4657]

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Not to be fully pessimistic but in general, you're probably talking to an agency. Just keep an eye out for short fishing messages like, "You around" "What are you up to" "I'm feeling naughty", shit like that. Then if you respond you'll get a sales pitch for an existing video the model has.

 

[Hoeater]

Their main scamming strategy is just a play on words and a deliberate vaguenuess to their descriptions. They rely solely on the double meanings of words and intentionally left out details.

I'm topless = My hands are covering my tits

I'm naked = it's implied nudity at an angle where I don't show anything or you can only see my shadow or a sillhouette of my body or something

My boobs are out = I'm topless but my back is to the camera

That's only a few examples of the many bullshit descriptions they will throw at you. If your questions are very detailed and descriptive when asking about the content like "Can you see nipples or are they hidden from view?" they either say nothing or say something like "see for yourself babe" and then you have your answer which is actually "no you can't see anything at all."

The combination of the arrogance in their play on words and the outright refusal to admit they are an agency is what makes them so disgusting to work with. Some of the easiest ways to know you're dealing with an agency (and it's pretty fucking easy and the list is long) is if they refuse to acknowledge or discuss agencies themselves, don't know anything about the actual model, use lots of emojis, use lots of cringe language that they think is supposed to make guys horny or something, constantly call you babe, they "want to get to know you", they're always online, they reply to your messages very quickly, they constantly spam your inbox, they don't do custom orders, etc.

I feel sorry for anyone who actually runs their own accounts because these agencies have ground down the customer's trust so much that there's nothing left and now customers just assume everyone they talk to is an agency trying to scam them. I originally joined OF because I just wanted to give back to this community but I'll be leaving because of the poor customer experience I got from dealing with these arrogant and dishonest agencies.

Also I have a bunch of stuff I'll share around Christmas for a lot of the models I follow. Just been busy lately.

 

[jollibee1]

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I guess as a non white male, i don't quite understand the whole white girl emoji language, including emojis that aren't even commonly used like the damn monkey covering eyes ones. however, i do know one OF model personally (works as a RL escort too) and flat out asked her if she really responds to her messages and she says she does but she's not that big of a channel either, but has ALL the elements of the spammy high pressure daily nags and random automated PMs out of nowhere. so, i'm not going to say that emojis equate to scam but i'll try to give the benefit of the doubt to the age and gender generation gap even to the point of checking if the ads in the actual posts contain a consistent usage of the same emojis and kinds of pet language. now if you're saying the agency runs every damn bit of the site including the posts and DMs, then i got nothing. its all a big mind fuck

 

[Safety11]

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Inconsistent messaging? It's possible that sometimes the girl herself logs into her messages, but the rest of the time hands it off to the message handler. I've had that happen. If you have a feel for her conversational style you'll sense when it switches.

 

[HenryCunningham]

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If the creator is large, and by large I mean someone that's very well known whether it's from porn, or reddit, or an onlyfans "star" 99.99% of the time it's an agency. If it's some under the radar girl from your hometown, likely not an agency running it. But basically if you're talking to them and it's only about trying to get you to buy overly priced shit, that's the #1 sign. Back before agencies took over you could know at least its a normal human responding bcthey would actually talk to you like you're a human being.

 

[idiotobsessed]

It has turned onlyfans into onlytrash, because those little nerds are good at baiting out as much as possible short term, but its terrible for everyone else, including the creator longterm

 

[johnnyTremain4657]

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It is frustrating, but it will keep happening until guys close their wallets.

 

[wrx21]

whis whole thread is picture perfect description of Mila Azul OF. i was blinded for too long because,well i was simping hard for her,but realized all the signs myself quite a while ago. all the prime examples are there,stuff like "fuuuuuuck im horny,what are you doing babe,can i suck your dick" etc...not to mention the profile is virtually always online,you get response back within minutes,sometimes even seconds and any question you ask that she should know,like her music band,photoshoots,content or whatever is always dodged or ignored.
she does respond directly but only to her whales and guys dropping thousands like most of these girls.

and not only she uses blatant agency and moderators,she and they scam the living shit out of subs,partly because of deceptions they sell that you chat with "her" and partly due to recycling of years old content. very very toxic page and person to be subbed to.

also,hers and profile of Nancy A are under same agency. same DMs were being sent multiple times,with same forms and wording . i managed to catch these because they usually delete PPVs that you don't buy,probably so that they can re-send it again as new content

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[Skoot]

Brielle Day hurt. Been following her for probably 10 years. Subscribed to her OF, got some custom content that I could tell was actually custom.

About a year ago is when she finally went the agency route. I think once she won cam girl of the year her profile exploded. Got another custom video for her.... this time there was edits, cuts,and nothing personal aimed at me.

I'm happy for her success but damn I hate she's not in touch with her fan base anymore.

 

[Iwerydd]

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The thing is : Why using OF when you just want to sell your nudies/videos and nothing more ?
If the girl does not want to provide the "added value" of a sex social network,what OF is supposed to be, compared to its competitors, well, she can uses manyvids or clip4sale.

 

[B4b4T33]

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I will be shocked if the onlyfans business model survives for another 2 years.
The next iteration of onlyfans will be a paid monthly subscription to get access to multiple models; because technically if you read the fine print of the TOS that models have to aggree to, Onlyfans can use the media they post anyway it sees fit.
You can delete the acount but they still have your content on their servers, jsut your profile is gone. I think a lot of girls willfully ignore that or did no care to read it.

The way i see it, at this point Why not just pay for Pornhub or Xvideos or one of the major porn aggregators and get better content with 1000X the volume and variety for one monthly flat rate?? Becasue the top 5% of accounts on OF who actually make money are all run by agensies. They even advertise on reddit now. You will see different girls posting on NSFW subreddits and the title of the post is pretty much the same wording or jsut slightly changed implying the same entity is posting on behalf of all these girls.

 

[Hoeater]

the fact that agencies/bots can say "here i am playing with my pussy" and then paywall preview-less pictures of the model playing with their cat AND get away with it should be reason enough for anyone to stop giving a single dime to to Onlyscams. Onlyscams is like an old ex that treated you like shit but you kept crawling back to them anyway. Time to move on.