Yeah I wonder if this is the kind of thing where someone ends up with a gun in hand, ya know?
WON'T BE ME, OK? But there's a lot of already damaged ppl out there.
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WON'T BE ME, OK? But there's a lot of already damaged ppl out there.
I wish they'd at least do this. But I bet they don't want to give ANY hints about agencies so that the users still oblivious don't start using too many critical thinking skills. Don't want them questioning anything. Don't want to give an inch.
Also, I bet OnlyFans code is so bad that they'd be afraid to make a change like this and want to avoid as many changes as possible so things don't break.
Oh for sure, this girl who runs her own page I talk to every now and then. Super nice honestly noticed she pretty much locked down her page disabling comments on posts deleted her reddit, twitter and insta accounts. Asked her what was up thinking she might be going the agency route ended up being a stalker that I guess she told him sensitive info too. There really are some nut jobs out there that take any kind of kindness as a sign that she want's to fuck him.
OnlyFans won't "do anything about this" until they have to.
Remember a couple years ago, first time they tightened up their TOS? Started regulating certain types of content, right? Girls were getting pissed off and some moved to Fansly b/c they could do the stuff that they got popular for.
IIRC, I believe I heard that all happened because one or more of the credit card, or payment, providers threatened not to service OF. Didn't want the association.
This is what makes them change their business, when there's either a threat of lost income, or increased oversight or regulation. God forbid Congress says "let's look at what's going on here."
Side note: I'm Canadian. The way it works up here is that sex work is not, in itself, against the law. Prostitution is actually legal. But our law is that no one other than the provider is allowed to profit from it. No pimping, no side businesses like security or drivers... or "agencies". I highly suspect this would be illegal in Canada if someone went after it.
Remember a couple years ago, first time they tightened up their TOS? Started regulating certain types of content, right? Girls were getting pissed off and some moved to Fansly b/c they could do the stuff that they got popular for.
IIRC, I believe I heard that all happened because one or more of the credit card, or payment, providers threatened not to service OF. Didn't want the association.
This is what makes them change their business, when there's either a threat of lost income, or increased oversight or regulation. God forbid Congress says "let's look at what's going on here."
Side note: I'm Canadian. The way it works up here is that sex work is not, in itself, against the law. Prostitution is actually legal. But our law is that no one other than the provider is allowed to profit from it. No pimping, no side businesses like security or drivers... or "agencies". I highly suspect this would be illegal in Canada if someone went after it.
Exactly, it was Visa and MasterCard which is essentially every card in existence. Change isn't going to happen until it hurts there bottom $ they don't give a fuck about users or agencies all they care about is money. I have seen some girls/agencies put a disclaimer that you may be talking to a team of people which IMO should be under every page if they are using an agency and should just be in ToS for OF but that isn't gonna happen anytime soon.
On a side note, do you guys remember when you didn't have to pay VAT for shit you buy at least for EU anyway. Just randomly over night had an extra 20% charge on subs etc.
I wonder if somebody started a petition at change.org if that would make any difference. Even the threat of a class action lawsuit for fraudulent behavior. I'm no lawyer though.
Here the VAT is 25% which doesn't really matter when the content is $10-15 but now that creators pushed by agencies are getting greedier it ends up being big money. So government takes 25%, OF takes 20% and then the agency takes another 10-30% it feels less like you are supporting the content creator and just a bunch of middle men.
Right. There's a lot of cuts. And I've talked to a couple of girls who are very aware, they already hate the 20% off the top and they don't want to pay anOTHER freeloader. I've seen a couple try an agency and then looks like they went back to running their own shit.
Agency accounts fall into three groups, IMO:
1/ The girl is so big she can handle the expenses. If I see a girl with more than 50 likes on every post, she's invariably with an agency.
2/ New girls who think "oh this is the way it works now, I have to have one, the money's gonna be easy."
3/ Girls who have a RL job and only do OF for the extra. Don't care about the overhead.
Any girl with half a brain will know she can do it herself and doesn't have to subsidize some bro living in his mom's attic. Unless her account is just too big.
I've worked in Sales. Similar case: you make all your own phone calls until one day, given enough success, you think maybe I could hire out someone to make my calls for me, so I can do my other shit.
Agency accounts fall into three groups, IMO:
1/ The girl is so big she can handle the expenses. If I see a girl with more than 50 likes on every post, she's invariably with an agency.
2/ New girls who think "oh this is the way it works now, I have to have one, the money's gonna be easy."
3/ Girls who have a RL job and only do OF for the extra. Don't care about the overhead.
Any girl with half a brain will know she can do it herself and doesn't have to subsidize some bro living in his mom's attic. Unless her account is just too big.
I've worked in Sales. Similar case: you make all your own phone calls until one day, given enough success, you think maybe I could hire out someone to make my calls for me, so I can do my other shit.
I think one reason that they turn to agencies is that they think they would have to be online all the time otherwise they are losing out, that seems to be one pitch from the agencies at least, which to me seems weird. I don't think the expectation from subscribers are that the creators will be online 24/7, unless they are delusional subscribers of course.
TBH I don't even blame the girls if they take the OF route it's easy money for them. Pay someone 20-30% of what you make to not have to deal with it, put in a couple hours a week taking photos videos and send them off and forget about it and just get paid into your account. What I posted about the stalker is only really the tip of the ice berg that these girls have to deal with. Imagine having to sift through messages of horny guys and creeps all day everyday, and having to pretend to be this sexual being 24/7 with no real feelings.
I'm pretty close to a girl who does OF talk to her a lot outside of OF on her IRL discord/Snap even play WoW with her from time to time. Started because of the pandemic just trying to make some extra money while she was out of her job and suffers a lot with depression. Honestly kind of got to the point where she attractive as fuck but I just can't get off to her content anymore don't even have to pay for it
Subbed to her when she had fuck all subs back in 2020 getting max 5 likes on posts, nowadays she's getting 50-80+ likes on posts depending and most of her posts get tipped $50+ she's not super big think like top 10-15%? she constantly tries hard as fuck to keep up with messages. Granted she only really reply's on the weekend due to her actual job. But logging on and seeing 100+ messages and having to send content and replying is going to be difficult for anyone. You really wouldent believe the messages she has gotten that would demoralize anyone from being told to kill herself because she didn't get back to them within 5 mins of getting the message or being called a slut/whore and not being seen as a person just a sexual object for a bunch of creepy dudes. That needs to be on 24/7 just for them.
Like I said I can see why a lot of girls want to go the agency route so they don't have to deal with that. But agencies are still cancer. I suspect a lot of those dudes get the idea that all these girls agency or not will tolerate them talking like that because these agency accounts are on 24/7 and they can get an instant reply. TBH if I could outsource my job for 20-30% of my income I 100% would and just chill
I just hate the spam I get from these agencies whenever they get a sniff that I have followed one of their "models" ugh
That's why you have two accounts one for your actual subs zero spam and ads (and if there is just insta mute/hide content from home page) and one for the shitty ass free trail accounts
Wow that escalated quickly. You should report him to OF or the model. This goes way beyond and is actual harassment.
I doubt the model would condone this behaviour. Maybe this was 21 year old Mark on a bad day.
LOL this is UNHINGED! i should try this sometime, this dude couldnt even try to keep up the facade
There is this amazing comedy sketch about dudes running onlyfans accounts for girls. I straight up sent it to the guy who now runs the account of a girl who used to run her own.
I think agencies are good because they're obvious, so it's upfront the girl not selling you some delusion in first place.
Same way I like it better when the girl openly shows they've got a boyfriend or something.
If their content is good they'll still get decent $$. There's girls I follow that I know have a dude. I don't develop any feelings for them as a consequence, and just appreciate their titties and asses.
In fact I assume most girls have a hidden dude somewhere in the first place. And I hate it x10 when girls act coy like they don't got dudes to lead you on, and suddenly you find out they do. That's scummy.
If they need to lead you on to make money, chances are their content not worth it in the first place.
In the end I don't really care though, because most of these girls gona lose their jobs to AI girlfriends in like 2 years anyway.
Same way I like it better when the girl openly shows they've got a boyfriend or something.
If their content is good they'll still get decent $$. There's girls I follow that I know have a dude. I don't develop any feelings for them as a consequence, and just appreciate their titties and asses.
In fact I assume most girls have a hidden dude somewhere in the first place. And I hate it x10 when girls act coy like they don't got dudes to lead you on, and suddenly you find out they do. That's scummy.
If they need to lead you on to make money, chances are their content not worth it in the first place.
In the end I don't really care though, because most of these girls gona lose their jobs to AI girlfriends in like 2 years anyway.
fair, but the agencies are what are making the costs go up and the content quality to go down. Plus they're annoying. As a rule literally no one should be trying to use OnlyFans as a way to try to actually get real connection, whether its an agent or the girls themselves they will never have sex with you (unless you pay them enough, maybe) and they will never ever care about you. Same rule applies to strippers.
the catch is, most agency run paiges will try to ask and talk to you like crazy ..it seems they prey on people who crave some kind of connection or i dont know. It seems they want to establish connection at all cost and it looks like its working for them or else they would stop using this tactic. Oh and yes they have totally crazy prices for basicly wortless content.
For me agencies ruin girls content, feel less personal and more commercial, generic stuff that anyone can find on normal porn sites, also lots of them make them put lots of paywalls after you pay the sub, also also, what they made them write on message is cringe as fuck
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