Discussion Worst Experience with a pornstar/model?

[smrdoprdo]

Kimmy granger is a managed account. I was checking out her and Megan rains accounts at the same time and whoever was in charge kept mixing up their photos and sending me the wrong person

this is hilarious..also fuck them both and every one of those scamming lazy fucks.

 

[MrMcGoo]

this is hilarious..also fuck them both and every one of those scamming lazy fucks.

The same people seem to manage Gina Valentina's account. I've had similar issues with her.

 

[sparrow5106]

for my experiences, Kimmy Granger or Kendra Lust are probably the worst for refusing to resolve issues with paid-for content unless I either paid again, or bought something else

had a few incidents with Kendra where I've paid for content that has been released, bought it and then it's disappeared (like she set up a separate link or something) and then subsequently I get a DM a few days later where she's selling the same scene for $10 where I was charged $20 or $25 for an "Exclusive"

Kimmy's just worse though - tried to buy a number of her BG scenes only to get her negotiating upwards in terms of price (asking for 2 x $20 scenes somehow costs $60 or more as a bundle?) then they're deleted about a week later so can't access, and she refuses to fix unless I pay again for them individually

And this is the main reason I'm so OK with piracy. Content you've paid for on these sites should not be able to be removed by the creators.
"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing."

 

[ASSton mARTin]

And this is the main reason I'm so OK with piracy. Content you've paid for on these sites should not be able to be removed by the creators.
"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing."

It's also ironic how a lot of these OnlyFans girls use copyrighted music or use characters (cosplays, for example) they haven't licensed to use in their content. But you're 100% right, and these places like OnlyFans need way better regulations and stricter rules as to what these girls can sell. Price/quality ratios just doesn't exist on these sites and these girls can charge the most ridiculous prices and be purposefully vague about WHAT they actually sell to trick dudes into buying junk. You could easily rename OnlyFans as ''OnlyScams'' as it's a wild west and these girls are free to do as they please, can upload literal porn or just insta-tier pics and charge the exact same, and can just shift blame to the customer for ''falling for it''. So I'm glad these leak sites exist, as they highlight the girls that are worth the money, show the ones that aren't worth it, and warn about the ones that scam. So keep on leaking!

 

[smrdoprdo]

It's also ironic how a lot of these OnlyFans girls use copyrighted music or use characters (cosplays, for example) they haven't licensed to use in their content. But you're 100% right, and these places like OnlyFans need way better regulations and stricter rules as to what these girls can sell. Price/quality ratios just doesn't exist on these sites and these girls can charge the most ridiculous prices and be purposefully vague about WHAT they actually sell to trick dudes into buying junk. You could easily rename OnlyFans as ''OnlyScams'' as it's a wild west and these girls are free to do as they please, can upload literal porn or just insta-tier pics and charge the exact same, and can just shift blame to the customer for ''falling for it''. So I'm glad these leak sites exist, as they highlight the girls that are worth the money, show the ones that aren't worth it, and warn about the ones that scam. So keep on leaking!

Damn ! you are right , i have seen so many time doing them like harry potter cosplay or marvel characters etc....and they use this to earn money. That is definetly shady if not illegal.

 

[ASSton mARTin]

Damn ! you are right , i have seen so many time doing them like harry potter cosplay or marvel characters etc....and they use this to earn money. That is definetly shady if not illegal.

Right? That's why it's so funny and ironic when these girls get upset about their shit getting leaked. Almost every OF/Fansly girls has done a cosplay at some point, and no way in hell they actually got the license to use them. Same with the girls using copyrighted music, something you can't even do on Youtube or Twitch!! This just all feeds into my point of that these sites need better regulations. You can upload a vid to Youtube, use 3 sec of a song, and get copyright struck to hell, but these girls upload 3 min ''dancing/teasing'' vids with a song blasting in the background and are free to charge ridiculous prices for it AND be protected and have the power to take down their leaks. How this shit is legal is absolutely beyond me, and I think these sites are long overdue to be looked into. But when you see the dude behind OnlyFans, it's not surprising that this sh*t is all shady af.

So if an OF girl uses licensed music or characters/cosplays in her content... just remind her of the fact that she has no leg to stand on and is hypocritical af. Again, keep on leaking, boys!

 

[Lolafoxxx]

dont worry friend.. me too ^_^
she is also banned by porn agency and studios .. she is not good person
I dont like her as person but I dont care I will masturbate on her body ^_^

Can you elaborate? What ever happened to her, she was really hot just just disappeared one day

 

[_Shisui_]

Bhad bhabie

post half naked pictures on instagram
Sells them on her onlyfans with clickbait titles like nude and she's gonna show her tits
But there just sfw pictures you can post on instagram
Says her "manager" doesn't want her to release naked pictures cause it can ruin her imago (which is already ruined when she made an onlyfans )
Has a second "free" onlyfans account supposed to be with friends of her where she shows nothing again and only one of them a blond shows her tits
Again never fully naked stuff just tits and lingerie

 

[Rikuu]

Right? That's why it's so funny and ironic when these girls get upset about their shit getting leaked. Almost every OF/Fansly girls has done a cosplay at some point, and no way in hell they actually got the license to use them. Same with the girls using copyrighted music, something you can't even do on Youtube or Twitch!! This just all feeds into my point of that these sites need better regulations. You can upload a vid to Youtube, use 3 sec of a song, and get copyright struck to hell, but these girls upload 3 min ''dancing/teasing'' vids with a song blasting in the background and are free to charge ridiculous prices for it AND be protected and have the power to take down their leaks. How this shit is legal is absolutely beyond me, and I think these sites are long overdue to be looked into. But when you see the dude behind OnlyFans, it's not surprising that this sh*t is all shady af.

So if an OF girl uses licensed music or characters/cosplays in her content... just remind her of the fact that she has no leg to stand on and is hypocritical af. Again, keep on leaking, boys!

they get upset about their shit leaking because that means that people actually get to see what they're acting selling and can't fool simps into paying for their OF, fanhouse, fansly, or whatever else only to find out it's dogshit quality content. As for the copyrighted stuff, it's really weird especially for cosplay. Even studio sites like teamskeet have been featuring a cosplayer who is in blatantly copyrighted cosplay like spider-girl or some video game character. And it's even funnier that the titles try to completely ignore that she's supposed to be dressed as a specific character

 

[kingrocko]

they get upset about their shit leaking because that means that people actually get to see what they're acting selling and can't fool simps into paying for their OF, fanhouse, fansly, or whatever else only to find out it's dogshit quality content. As for the copyrighted stuff, it's really weird especially for cosplay. Even studio sites like teamskeet have been featuring a cosplayer who is in blatantly copyrighted cosplay like spider-girl or some video game character. And it's even funnier that the titles try to completely ignore that she's supposed to be dressed as a specific character

I actually got yelled at by a girl who was doing analysis but didn't prep beforehand. I was making fun of her doody dildo and brown colored lube

 

[ASSton mARTin]

they get upset about their shit leaking because that means that people actually get to see what they're acting selling and can't fool simps into paying for their OF, fanhouse, fansly, or whatever else only to find out it's dogshit quality content. As for the copyrighted stuff, it's really weird especially for cosplay. Even studio sites like teamskeet have been featuring a cosplayer who is in blatantly copyrighted cosplay like spider-girl or some video game character. And it's even funnier that the titles try to completely ignore that she's supposed to be dressed as a specific character

Exactly! That is why I always say leak sites are so damn important, as they are pretty much the closest thing these leak sites get to keeping these girls in check. These sites need way better regulations, stricter rules, and better price/quality ratios because none of these exist atm, and it's just a paradise for scammers and for girls to make a 'quick buck doing zero fuck'. Plus, these girls lose potential customers with these leaks, and that's only a good thing in a time where some can't even afford fucking food. These girls do no essential work, so fuck 'em honestly (pun not intended).

About that copyright stuff, for fun, you or other people should try and report some of them and see what happens. I don't think a company like Marvel wants its kid brands to be associated with anal sex or DPs.

 

[_Shisui_]

Some of these leaked onlyfans creators already coming to this forum defending themself in discussion threads
Cause no way they don't know about this site

 

[ASSton mARTin]

Some of these leaked onlyfans creators already coming to this forum defending themself in discussion threads
Cause no way they don't know about this sit e

Any examples?! I would love to see that shit show myself!

 

[_Shisui_]

Any examples?! I would love to see that shit show myself!

In the amouranth discussion thread
Her husband nick for sure reads the thread
I made a : He should go to therapy joke after the fake abuse story Next day her husband went to therapy

 

[ASSton mARTin]

In the amouranth discussion thread
Her husband nick for sure reads the thread
I made a : He should go to therapy joke after the fake abuse story Next day her husband went to therapy

LOL, it's pretty obvious these chicks, their BFs, or their mods check out these sites for sure. I'm mostly active on Maimy ASMR's thread and she100% know about this site or . She literally reacts on her insta stories to shit we bring up on here and I ones said I had her old facebook page and an hour later that shit was deleted. Also, most of these girls are major narcissists and ego's. Of course they wanna know what people say about them. Plus, these sites are the best marketing tool they have.

 

[Exemplar]

Exactly! That is why I always say leak sites are so damn important, as they are pretty much the closest thing these leak sites get to keeping these girls in check. These sites need way better regulations, stricter rules, and better price/quality ratios because none of these exist atm, and it's just a paradise for scammers and for girls to make a 'quick buck doing zero fuck'. Plus, these girls lose potential customers with these leaks, and that's only a good thing in a time where some can't even afford fucking food. These girls do no essential work, so fuck 'em honestly (pun not intended).

About that copyright stuff, for fun, you or other people should try and report some of them and see what happens. I don't think a company like Marvel wants its kid brands to be associated with anal sex or DPs.

So weirdly enough, there may be a good reason these brands do not and probably wont go after these creators:

Parody laws

Much like they do with innovation(they ALWAYS innovate first), the porn industry as a whole, act together with a vengeance against lawsuits that will affect the entire industry. When porn parodies were in their hay day after 'Batman XXX: A Porn Parody' (25 years ago), the brands wanted the adult industry to keep their names out of their mouths, but the very few lawsuits the brands brought, they lost. Hard. No big name brand is going to go after Lil' Cosplay Slut. Ever.

It doesn't matter if 'cosplay' is literally in her name, she is legally protected by US parody laws (which are hardcore as hell) It doesn't matter if she's slutty Pikachu, Gwen Stacy getting railed, or Hermione and her very magical wand, going after her or other creators for this type of copyrighted IP would be nigh suicidal.

And yes there is case law that states that just because it's dirty doesn't make it a parody, the IP holders would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this type of use is affecting there market (it doesn't), and they would have to do it with EVERY SINGLE creator using their IP...on a case by case basis... and do it in such a way that doesn't bring more attention to the porn versions than their own IP. This is a no win scenario for them.
My guess is for every one they would win, there would be 5 that they lost. All it would really do would be to force a lot of creators to use the word parody on their clips or at least somewhere on their site page.

On the other hand, the audio piracy is on much firmer ground with possible lawsuits and copyright claims.
AND THEY WILL NEVER PURSUE THEM EVER! EVER!!! Not unless a particular creators work is financially harming them or somehow hurting their IP.
Drugs, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll is an actual thing. Almost every popular musician and industry exec has dated a 'model' at some point, be it super or adult. Every strip club uses music they don't license. The adult industry knows where the music industry has their secrets buried, and they will bury that industry with those secrets if they start coming after the creators wholesale. Even if they don't use this connection against them, they have other ways of hitting the music industry where it hurts...
Imagine being a music exec and having to have the following conversation with your talent:

Music Exec: "Hey Mick. Hey Jay. Hello every up and coming rapper and band, thanks for joining this call. So I've got good news and bad news. The good news is, we Dmca'd every single illegal user of your music..."
"The bad news is that included the adult industry, and you're all banned from every strip club in the country (at the very least), all the big booty ho's have dropped out of any upcoming videos and performances, which include bachelor parties and club gigs. Also I'm pretty sure any side chicks or babies mama's are calling up your wifie right now to inform them of the situation..."
"And remember, before you come to kill us, we did this for you...and I have to go leave the country right now before my wife and side piece come and merc me...I really shouldn't have made my sister in law my mistress, but she had the DD's and no gag reflex...anyway I have got to go, every member of Aerosmith is outside of my office with a Tesla flame thrower and I need to run...literally."

 

[ASSton mARTin]

So weirdly enough, there may be a good reason these brands do not and probably wont go after these creators:

Parody laws

Much like they do with innovation(they ALWAYS innovate first), the porn industry as a whole, act together with a vengeance against lawsuits that will affect the entire industry. When porn parodies were in their hay day after 'Batman XXX: A Porn Parody' (25 years ago), the brands wanted the adult industry to keep their names out of their mouths, but the very few lawsuits the brands brought, they lost. Hard. No big name brand is going to go after Lil' Cosplay Slut. Ever.

It doesn't matter if 'cosplay' is literally in her name, she is legally protected by US parody laws (which are hardcore as hell) It doesn't matter if she's slutty Pikachu, Gwen Stacy getting railed, or Hermione and her very magical wand, going after her or other creators for this type of copyrighted IP would be nigh suicidal.

And yes there is case law that states that just because it's dirty doesn't make it a parody, the IP holders would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this type of use is affecting there market (it doesn't), and they would have to do it with EVERY SINGLE creator using their IP...on a case by case basis... and do it in such a way that doesn't bring more attention to the porn versions than their own IP. This is a no win scenario for them.
My guess is for every one they would win, there would be 5 that they lost. All it would really do would be to force a lot of creators to use the word parody on their clips or at least somewhere on their site page.

On the other hand, the audio piracy is on much firmer ground with possible lawsuits and copyright claims.
AND THEY WILL NEVER PURSUE THEM EVER! EVER!!! Not unless a particular creators work is financially harming them or somehow hurting their IP.
Drugs, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll is an actual thing. Almost every popular musician and industry exec has dated a 'model' at some point, be it super or adult. Every strip club uses music they don't license. The adult industry knows where the music industry has their secrets buried, and they will bury that industry with those secrets if they start coming after the creators wholesale. Even if they don't use this connection against them, they have other ways of hitting the music industry where it hurts...
Imagine being a music exec and having to have the following conversation with your talent:

Music Exec: "Hey Mick. Hey Jay. Hello every up and coming rapper and band, thanks for joining this call. So I've got good news and bad news. The good news is, we Dmca'd every single illegal user of your music..."
"The bad news is that included the adult industry, and you're all banned from every strip club in the country (at the very least), all the big booty ho's have dropped out of any upcoming videos and performances, which include bachelor parties and club gigs. Also I'm pretty sure any side chicks or babies mama's are calling up your wifie right now to inform them of the situation..."
"And remember, before you come to kill us, we did this for you...and I have to go leave the country right now before my wife and side piece come and merc me...I really shouldn't have made my sister in law my mistress, but she had the DD's and no gag reflex...anyway I have got to go, every member of Aerosmith is outside of my office with a Tesla flame thrower and I need to run...literally."

Thanks for the info man. I just want to clarify that I was talking more about OnlyFans and Fansly. That the porn industry is good to use this is also insane to me, but that OnlyFans and Fanly girls can sell content with this licensed stuff when you can't even have 3 seconds of a song in your YouTube video without it getting claimed/struck is fucking shady af. I wonder what would happen if that concept got more traction and if more people would actually be fighting against it, as it isn't fair in the slightest.

 

[Exemplar]

Thanks for the info man. I just want to clarify that I was talking more about OnlyFans and Fansly. That the porn industry is good to use this is also insane to me, but that OnlyFans and Fanly girls can sell content with this licensed stuff when you can't even have 3 seconds of a song in your YouTube video without it getting claimed/struck is fucking shady af. I wonder what would happen if that concept got more traction and if more people would actually be fighting against it, as it isn't fair in the slightest.

It doesn't seem fair but it's the adult industry vs. 'mainstream'. If you DMCA Onlyfans girls, you have to DMCA strip clubs, gogos, burlesque shows.

Also remember the two industries are very different. Trying to compare the porn industry to youtube or twitch is just an exercise in madness. Yes if all things are equal then sure it would be great for them to go after this, but all things are not equal.

But I'm sure as soon as the youtube stars and twitch streamers start fucking the bass player and the drummer, things will change.

 

[ASSton mARTin]

It doesn't seem fair but it's the adult industry vs. 'mainstream'. If you DMCA Onlyfans girls, you have to DMCA strip clubs, gogos, burlesque shows.

Also remember the two industries are very different. Trying to compare the porn industry to youtube or twitch is just an exercise in madness. Yes if all things are equal then sure it would be great for them to go after this, but all things are not equal.

But I'm sure as soon as the youtube stars and twitch streamers start fucking the bass player and the drummer, things will change.

I hope things will change. I get that the porn industry isn't the same as YouTube or Twitch, but they aren't above the law, and they can't just do anything. I mean, pornhub also got hit hard when they had revenge porn and CP on it, so they aren't untouchable. Also, from my understanding, things like OnlyFans and Fansly aren't the ''porn industry'' and are their own thing.

But it would be cool if this stuff gained more traction, as I think it would make a major impact if more people spoke out against it. Imagine all these content creators or Twitch streamers speaking out against it. But that's just one of the many problems places like OF and Fansly have. And it's well known that the porn industry is rotten to the core.

 

[Xennus]

It doesn't seem fair but it's the adult industry vs. 'mainstream'. If you DMCA Onlyfans girls, you have to DMCA strip clubs, gogos, burlesque shows.

Also remember the two industries are very different. Trying to compare the porn industry to youtube or twitch is just an exercise in madness. Yes if all things are equal then sure it would be great for them to go after this, but all things are not equal.

But I'm sure as soon as the youtube stars and twitch streamers start fucking the bass player and the drummer, things will change.

Strip club, burlesque shows, etc. are not the same as OF. They have the same standard ASCAP license, the same that a bar or nightclub would buy, to cover the music. If you google it you can find cases where strip clubs were sued for playing music without a license. It has surprised me how OF isn't getting hit more with how aggressive the music industry is with licensing. Only thing that makes sense the that the pay walls are slowing it down.