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HardenedDisposition

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My point is the idea of “proof” in this context is a false construct, so you shouldn’t chase it.

You’re already paying for someone to lie to you. They don’t want to chat with you, they don’t want to see your dick and/or rate it, they don’t even want to say your name without $ attached. You don’t have a “connection” with this person, you have a transaction.

So why set these arbitrary thresholds for “authenticity” when none of it is authentic?!?
 

johnnyTremain4657

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Yes, no matter what you ask of the model, the agency will pass onto the model whatever requests of yours that they can't handle themselves, like a video message of her saying your name. Although with AI they could possibly produce those types of videos now too.....not to be too negative but at this point, trust nobody on OF. Seems like OF is ok with models doing this sort of fraud on their "customers".
 
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Scopettino

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because that point of view is a bit on the extreme part, there are many greys in the middle
Im not even interested in any special connection, I dont really care about long chatting or anything else. I want pussy and maybe ask a couple questions, but to the model, not to an agency

Im ok with the transaction, I just dont want the supermarket, I want a little family shop where sometimes you spend a few minutes talking to the owner
 

HardenedDisposition

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One person’s “extreme” is another’s “pragmatic and realistic”.
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What kind of questions?

Also, unless you have the model sending you a video/livestream of them manually typing every single message they send you—which they’re extremely unlikely to do—you’re not going to have “proof”.

So, I understand you want to ask the model directly, but you can’t guarantee that it’s them (if you disagree, then tell us how you can guarantee it). Realizing this makes it futile to insist that it’s them directly talking to you.
 
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DJDeadz

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Yes, the agencies are awful. But one thing I learned is that all these Instagram models, social media influencers, TikTokers, etc, are the laziest thots on the planet. They rather go out to clubs, hang out with friends every night/day, talk on the phone for hours, watch Netflix, go on constant vacations, etc, basically do anything but shoot content or make money on their Onlyfans. They all have zero work effort. Without an agency running things, these thots would never put out any content or check their DMs cause they are too fucking lazy.

BTW, I am not talking about actual sex workers who take sex work seriously but the girls who all jumped on the OF bandwagon the last couple of years.

Yeah it sucks a 40 year old guy is running some thot's account but without him. nothing would get done.
 

Mondschein

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I think the point is that there are no checks and balances against those types of accounts. They can blissfully exist without oversight or transparency. With the exception of some unofficial efforts to provide a ratings/review forum, these platforms will never implement an official review system. If they did, creators would be flooded with 1 star reviews - most likely deserved, but sure, there would also be overly passionate reviews from the smallest sleight. And more importantly, the money would slow down. Can't have that!

I get your point about the dream of passive income. But if we're going to continue entertaining this weird pseudo-capitalist system, consumers have the right to know what services will be rendered for their money. If a creator is not delivering and actually misleading, they ought to be held accountable under that system.
 

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OnlyFans would be 5x better if there were ratings and stats like percentage of re-subs, percentage of people buying more than one piece of content.

As for the point of the agencies allowing them to earn passive income I'm not sure it's actually a benefit to the creators, they probably think so because they have this belief that having people online all the time is what subscribers want. Without the agency taking 25-30% of their cut (after OF taking their 20%) they could have very different pricing, they would actually know what content they are sending out and they'd in most cases think about ways to get subscribers to stick around to spend more. Agencies must result in a series of one-pump chumps or just a few whales making it all go around, people that don't care about it being an agency or delusional to think otherwise that spend a ton to get attention and custom material done.

When the agencies are so shitty and makes everything so expensive you might as well talk to an AI, if you want to delude yourself and live that fantasy then at least you'll get fake voice notes as opposed to text written by a 28 yo guy named Chad.
 
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HardenedDisposition

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Unless an OF model explicitly says “I answer every message myself”…customers aren’t being misled by the model…they’re deluding themselves, then trying to project blame onto the model.

It’s no different than when you sign up for a mailing list or buy a product or read a press release, and there’s a “letter/quote from the CEO”…news flash: they didn’t actually write it.

Santa isn’t real either. It isn’t “different” between you and the stripper at the local joint and they actually like talking to you.

So put in a review system…how would the reviewers know they’re talking to an agency or talking to the model? They wouldn’t. Judging by 95% of the posts in here, it’d be whining about how “the bitch is lazy” or a variation. There would be virtually no well-considered, even-handed reviews.

“I don’t understand why she doesn’t take off the pasties. 1 star.”

“This greedy bitch should show her balloon knot straight away for $1.99, and no PPVs. 1 star.”

“This whore made me wait 2 days for a custom. 1 star.”

“Anyone who says anything positive about this slut is a SIMP…she’s not going to let you smash bro…1 star.”

I wouldn’t implement a review system, either.
 

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Such reviews are *going* to happen. You see this everywhere a review system is implemented when someone gets salty. But that shouldn't prevent implementing one altogether. Reviews can be moderated under a site's terms and conditions and this is done just about everywhere online these days. Reviews should not be considered a deterrent (but rather a boon) towards sales unless you know you're selling a crappy product.
 

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We could all go back and forth on who's to blame but there remains one simple truth.
The only way to not get scammed by a model or agency, is not to sub to any of them.
There should be enough material on here and other sites already to fill our spank banks for the rest of our lives.
 

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It seems his point flew over your head. and you didn't understand it, cause he wasn't talking about if it's ethical or not. That is what you wanted to bring up for some reason. He was just talking about how none of these girls seem capable of running an Onlyfans and have zero work effort. So the agencies are a necessary evil.

Without them. 80% of Onlyfans would die or cease to exist. But I would argue that is a good thing. If a girl can't be bothered to put minimal effort into running an adult content career, cause she is too busy hanging out with friends and doing nothing, then she shouldn't have one.
 

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A few pornstars & other OF girls use Fanscout for fans to review their OF

I've left a few good reviews for pornstars & models that actually are worthy of subscription

I wrote a lengthy & great review of Angela White OF & she loved it so much she sent me some free content

I actually love reading & writing reviews to see who's worthy of subscriptions

I remember during the height of Covid where OF really took off, There was a guy who did video reviews (Censor the explicit photos/videos) of girls OF on his YouTube channel

The amount of money I've saved from bad OF pages is something im really grateful for
 

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His post did not have a point and certainly didn't hint towards ethics. That's you trying to insert your thoughts into his post to make it stronger.

In no way can you or I discuss ethics on a website where we openly share and consume content that we did not purchase. Does that seem ethical to you? But yet you and this guy are arguing for agencies and creators to behave ethically. Pure comedy.

The most important point, which may be a point too profound for your cognitive awareness (for whatever reason), is that the current business model is working with their current level of effort.

Let me say that again--just for you so that you don't miss it--their product is selling and their pages are successful with their current level of effort. Why, in any form of logic or business practices can you cite that would objectively justify why they should put in more effort? To please simpcity complainers? Sure thing lol

Explaining something so obvious is really a waste of time and I won't engage in it any further.
 

HardenedDisposition

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No one is claiming a review system *can’t* be implemented…there’s just no business incentive to do so.

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That’s a stretch.

Sure, a business will want to come up with content policies, and hire moderation teams, and invest additional overhead…to create a system that potentially incentivizes people to pay less money? Anyone that has the most elementary understanding of ROI would know it’s a fool’s errand in that context.

…but sure, the people not complaining about such a self-defeating business idea are the salty ones, riiiighttttt. :KEKWlaugh:
 
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Anyone defending OnlyScams in this day in age I have a hard time taking seriously. Most of those doing so now in this thread and others have maybe a few discussion posts under their account or have never purchased or shared content ever. They either have some alterior motive, or they're some die hard simp, or an agency/OF employee defending their hoes/brands by astroturfing, either way it's speculation but still very suspicious.

The fact of the matter is that I've used OnlyScams, and many others like me know that OF and these agencies literally take scam strategies straight out of book and use them on people without remorse. Just recently one tried to scam me. The girl was clearly using an agency because she barely spoke english but the agency person spoke very good english. I asked if they had any dildo riding content for a specific set and said I'd be interested in purchasing custom content related to it. So they instead asked if I wanted to buy the whole set plus vids. I said sure because they were selling it cheaper for than it was on gumroad. I don't think this agency new about gumroad though.

But what they did is they removed videos from the set and tried to sell me only part of the set instead of the whole thing. I knew from gumroad that the set had 10 videos but this scammer removed what i suspected were the dildo riding vids from the set so he could sell them later at a much higher price and then call them "custom content" and sell them for custom prices, because that is what I was interested in from the get go.

So yeah it's a big mistake telling these agencies what you want because they will immediately use it against you. There's nothing honest about what they're doing. Anyone who says otherwise has some agenda.

I always recommend sites like manyvids over onlyfans, because they're transparent about their prices and the prices actually reflect the demand that people have for them. Onlyfans can make up any price they want.

Also I suspect they can see how much you spend on your OF account, because I believe many of these "agencies" are run by Onlyfans themselves. They pay much more attention to the spending accounts than the non-spending ones. I know because I make multiple accounts. The more they see you pay the more they're going to charge you for what they're charging everyone else. It's all part of the big OF scam.
 
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HungryMycologist

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There are "CRM" systems for OF, don't think they are officially allowed by OF, that have functionality to adjust pricing based on spending but I don't think they are able to cross-match if you have multiple accounts but maybe it looks at spend across all the creators that use the CRM system.