Discussion Agencies are ruining OF for me...
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Thanks for that. That's a refreshingly frank admission. Be nice if this becomes the norm.
I remember Emma Glover also switched to an agency at one point and suddenly all her wall posts were either deleted or put behind separate unlocks and they put up a 'menu picture' with stuff like dick rates on it and within a week she had to walk it all back claiming she had no idea what they were doing and she never authorized stuff like 'dick rates' which is just something she's never done, being a UK glamour model with two kids.
It's a reminder that these agencies will promise models increased sales and exposure but basically just run their marketing program regardless of the type of model and her personality.
It's a reminder that these agencies will promise models increased sales and exposure but basically just run their marketing program regardless of the type of model and her personality.
onlyfans got popular because it was more personal, like a model/fan interaction. putting an agency behind it ruins the point, might aswell turn to traditional porn if you using agencies.
Spot on. These dick rates and sexting scams they are running are the worst
That's a great video she posted. You gotta wonder how bad her agency must've been for her to get to that place. Soooo many people most've responded to the trash Dms that they're putting her on mute, I've never thought of doing that for like the 100+ accounts I've muted. Maybe that's a message that resonates added up over time.
Funny you should mention that.
Sammy Braddy is also a UK glamour model with at least one kid and she began offering dick rates some months ago. She also had a series of "menu pictures" the last time I subscribed. She says in her bio she runs her OF herself, and I believed it at the time, but in hindsight, I'm now convinced it's a lie. Too much "babe" this and "babe" that in DMs, plus trying to get me to pay for sexting, which agencies are always doing.
I think she says she can do video dick rates, but you can fake even that by making a generic video where you don't show the guy's dick pic.
In any case, unlike Emma, Sammy seems fine with lying to her fans about handling her OF herself and having managers looking at her subscribers' dicks.
Yeah, doing this with established UK Glamour models, especially the ones who never even show their pussies, is pretty wild. Like anyone who's followed Emma Glover knows she doesn't do any sexual stuff, it's all tits and ass and 'being cheeky'. She's not gonna talk to you about your dick or how she likes it in the sack.
Rhian Sugden is also a positive example cause she regularly posts on her wall in her voice and literally complains about people being impatient dickheads, saying that she handles all her own replies and obviously can't get to everyone fast. She also once asked her followers what this VIP thing is about that she sees everywhere and quickly declared it as stupid, something she'd never do.
Like, talk to me about 'making money' and 'it only makes sense' all you want but me as the end user, I still 100% prefer a profile that has at least some remnant of a personal voice and doesn't feel like subscribing to a porn bot that goes "Hey babe, babe check this out, u there babe, babe you horny?" the whole damn day.
Rhian Sugden is also a positive example cause she regularly posts on her wall in her voice and literally complains about people being impatient dickheads, saying that she handles all her own replies and obviously can't get to everyone fast. She also once asked her followers what this VIP thing is about that she sees everywhere and quickly declared it as stupid, something she'd never do.
Like, talk to me about 'making money' and 'it only makes sense' all you want but me as the end user, I still 100% prefer a profile that has at least some remnant of a personal voice and doesn't feel like subscribing to a porn bot that goes "Hey babe, babe check this out, u there babe, babe you horny?" the whole damn day.
It's weird but if the agencies put in less work they'd probably get a bigger return because users wouldn't be so annoyed with the spam.
But spam is the whole point. I don't think it's more or less work for them, it's a lot of auto messages to catch as many people as possible. It's a system where quantity is key.
yup, unfortunately it works and that's why they do it. We tend to think people are as sophisticated consumers as ourselves, but they aren't. They're catching typical neckbeards who maybe watch one or two stars and subbed to them thinking that it's actually them with no concept of agencies or anything,
I've been following a bunch of girls for a while, most of them free accounts or free trials. Been scammed a few times, and as it's become more and more obvious it's not the girl DM'ing, I've made fewer purchases where I didn't know what I was getting. I even will play along when they start that "free sexting talk," but the minute they put up the overpriced PPV, I leave the chat. I have been following one girl who is somewhat local, and from what I can tell, she still runs her own page - DMs aren't answerd right away, we've chatted about real life things a few times, and she's definitely NOT on 24/7. She does spam a lot, but in this case, other creators pay her to promote them, so she gets extra money I believe. While this can be annoying, I can at least respect it because she's doing it to make extra $$, especially considering her page is free.
The one porn star who definitely isn't using an agency IMO is Crystal Clark. Yes, she posts a ton of professional PPV vids, but when it came to sexting, the proof was in how she did it. She only has certain slots available, and once they're filled, that's it until the next time. I sent her a message asking if, on top of the fee, there'd be unlocks with increasing prices. Not only was she happy to answer me (and actually made it a point to say that she doesn't agree with that strategy), but she did it in a video message. When sexting, that was also how she did it. I'd type my part, and she would respond with a video of herself, making it clear that we were actually interacting. If more models would do this, I think they would be more successful. Killielou and Kate Shelor are two others who I believe are also doing it all themselves.
The one porn star who definitely isn't using an agency IMO is Crystal Clark. Yes, she posts a ton of professional PPV vids, but when it came to sexting, the proof was in how she did it. She only has certain slots available, and once they're filled, that's it until the next time. I sent her a message asking if, on top of the fee, there'd be unlocks with increasing prices. Not only was she happy to answer me (and actually made it a point to say that she doesn't agree with that strategy), but she did it in a video message. When sexting, that was also how she did it. I'd type my part, and she would respond with a video of herself, making it clear that we were actually interacting. If more models would do this, I think they would be more successful. Killielou and Kate Shelor are two others who I believe are also doing it all themselves.
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It probably works to a degree but I definitely think that they are losing out by overdoing it with the spamming, I doubt that even big accounts get that many new subs that it's worth sending the same message X number of times a day. At some point users will tune out so it will reduce sales and limit it to newcomers or only the dedicated fans. But then again I don't think that matters to the agencies, they have very little overhead so it's just a matter of getting lots of accounts to manage and spam away to get paid well.
Bc they do not have any long term plans, they want to make quick money from the people that are desperate for attention bc they are easier to manipulate and they don't care about everyone else leaving, bc they can just dump the accounts that become unprofitable.
Get this - a model whose page I've been following for months, now I'm almost certain it's being run by an agency. I followed her free page for awhile, and she offered a free year for her VIP page for a $50 tip. Fair enough. But since creating the page, all of her vids that she charged for on her free page, she was ALSO charging for on the VIP page! Just 5 minutes ago, she posts to like 20 posts for a free vid. No sooner do I like the posts, then she DM's that I need to unlock something to claim the vid, that the page is only for buyers, and threatens to remove me from the page. In a span of just five minutes, I went from liking posts, to not only being removed, but BLOCKED from the page!!
I guess that $50 I dropped a few months back wasn't good enough, but then, when you're charging for vids, and I already purchased a bunch of things from the free page - I just can't believe it was the actual girl who did that. Hell, "she" didn't even give me the chance to find something to unlock before blocking me. And to be honest, it was the same stuff being posted over and over - I wasn't about to purchase stuff I had already bought.
And it gets better - just minutes later, I get a DM from her free page telling me I hadn't spent anything since September, and to tip $5 or I'd be removed. I unsubscribed immediately, and was blocked just moments later. If this is the way some of these creators are going to be, they're gonna' lose subscribers in a hurry. Threatening fans with removal for not spending? This happened to me once before two years ago with a former porn star's page, again, within a span of five minutes. Looking back, I'm betting it was also an agency.
I guess that $50 I dropped a few months back wasn't good enough, but then, when you're charging for vids, and I already purchased a bunch of things from the free page - I just can't believe it was the actual girl who did that. Hell, "she" didn't even give me the chance to find something to unlock before blocking me. And to be honest, it was the same stuff being posted over and over - I wasn't about to purchase stuff I had already bought.
And it gets better - just minutes later, I get a DM from her free page telling me I hadn't spent anything since September, and to tip $5 or I'd be removed. I unsubscribed immediately, and was blocked just moments later. If this is the way some of these creators are going to be, they're gonna' lose subscribers in a hurry. Threatening fans with removal for not spending? This happened to me once before two years ago with a former porn star's page, again, within a span of five minutes. Looking back, I'm betting it was also an agency.
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Thanks for the heads up. I'd have to agree it must be an agency ran account. What benefit would be gained from removing subscribers from your free page. I have seen the threat of removal if you don't make a purchase on an account I know is ran by the creator. I didn't purchase anything and wasn't removed. I think she was just trying to drum up purchases.