I remember that discord call, that shit was embarrassing, they finally get to talk to this chick and all they were doing was talking over each other about vtubers
Hah that's what the chuds all think and why they're all still actively there. It's the stripper dielema, guys stick around thinking they can save the girl. But I wouldn't say she's exactly the victim. Maybe she's dumb not realizing she really doesn't need him anymore. But she definitely knows what's happening.
I was in that same discord too around that time. Most of it were filled with weird guys that did nothing but play DND and say political crap. The usual nerd stereotype.
What's even funnier is that she truly believes they are their friends. Like the Asian whale, the glasses guy or many simps that try to get on things she likes just to have a pixel of interaction.
IMHO, you need to know how to make sex look good on camera. If you check early videos of Octokuro they kinda look boring. But when she started using professional actors, then they became better. So I doubt that filming with a guy will make videos better. BUT on the same time, again, IMHO, Ruby x Yang and Black x Yang were really good, especially prone bone pose...