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Simp Chat Amouranth - Discussion Thread/Nick's Fan Club

robertohavito

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To be fair, Onlyfans is a weird exception as it speaks to broad oversight and regulation of business practices which other businesses wouldn't be allowed to get away with in most cases.

There's been a ton of discourse and arguing amongst ourselves on this subject, so no need to take the lid off of the can of worms fully - but if Onlyfans was regulated in any way comparable to the way that most businesses are via the FTC and there were enough people with money/time/balls, Onlyfans could get shut down or sued hard for deceptive and false advertising given how endemic the stuff that Kaitlyn does in trying to get people to buy her PPVs is. Maybe not to the extent where other "creators" are using cut-down dildos, but playing hard and fast with descriptions on PPV content for sure. She gets to hide behind indifferent platforms and their lax attitudes partly because most of her enablers lack the resources to pursue things further legally.
 

shadownights46

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real question tho, is she really viewbotting?
don`t get me wrong, I agree her content is trash but her thread here has over 22 million views where the second most popular thread has almost half of that. unless she is viewbotting her thread too then I`d say she is pulling in real attention for some reason
 

OFmoocher

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She viewbots all the time on both platforms but in this instant the numbers could have been legit because she had not been on Twitch in a week or more and this was the first time she had gone live after the TOS was rolled back. I imagine all the coomers saw she went live and wanted to see what she was going to do. She did exactly what they thought she would do, she started oiling up her tits while she was dressed in a Christmas outfit.
 
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HardenedDisposition

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Not a chance. Anyone pursuing a suit might as well set that money on fire.

Do you know how the FTC works?!?

I’ll tell you what they *don’t* do, and that’s regulate advertising such as “The biggest, most action-packed movie of the summer!” Or “Oil of Olay gives the softest skin”, because there are no *objective* measures there.

If you think things like “TIP $39.99 for my LATEST BLOWJOB VIDEO” or “ 𝐓𝐢𝐩 $𝟗𝟗 𝐓𝐎 𝐉𝐎𝐈𝐍 𝐅𝐑𝐈𝐄𝐍𝐃 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐁𝐄𝐍𝐄𝐅𝐈𝐓𝐒 𝐓𝐈𝐄𝐑 💎💎💎𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐈𝐌𝐌𝐄𝐃𝐈𝐀𝐓𝐄𝐋𝐘 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐌𝐘 𝐅𝐈𝐑𝐒𝐓 𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐔𝐍𝐂𝐄𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐄𝐃 𝐀𝐍𝐀𝐋 𝐕𝐈𝐃𝐄𝐎🥵”

Would seriously get adjudicated in court and/or by any regulatory body, you’re living in a fantasy land.

What do you think the legal argument would be?!?
“Well, your honor, ‘Blowjob’ implies a human male penis, and that’s not what I got for my $39.99” or “I paid $99 for UNCENSORED ANAL and all I got was a picture of Amo’s butt”.

These things are not material to the FTC (or an equivalent) with respect to consumer injury. “Blowjob” and “Anal”, and other sexual terms, for that matter, don’t have a single codified definition. Have you ever heard of a porn company getting sued because they put out “Biggest Butts Anal Sluts” when, in fact, the aforementioned butts were *NOT* the biggest?!?

Same thing here. There is no case.

By that standard, every piece of hyperbolic marketing copy in America would be shut down by the FTC.
 

Dauragon C Mikado

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For Kick it honestly feels like she only has like 20+ viewers with 4k dead silent bots. On Twitch I feel like it's sometimes legit, sometimes 50/50 chaos botting.

Below are the stats from Sunday for anyone interested.

-This is Morgpie yesterday. (Blue is followers gained/ Orange is Negative)

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-This is Amouranth yesterday.

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Onehushhush

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I stg, ever since their "data migration" earlier in the year (aka the "hey we just added popup ads all over the forum and broken a bunch of pinned posts in most threads" update) this website is so fucking unstable.
 

simp3069xoxo

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Excuse for all the stretching while sitting right now: "must have been all the sleeping the couch instead of in my bed ..." - she the man after all in the house w/ all the pegging jokes? :RICH::leokek:
 
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robertohavito

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I think you're missing the point I was trying to make - I was suggesting only in a hypothetical scenario if Onlyfans was regulated by the FTC the way that most other businesses are, as indicated by using the word "if" early on in my premise. As I said as well, we've long settled that there's no great pathway to having Onlyfans or Kaitlyn held financially accountable, so it's all wishful thinking.

In addition, I don't think a class-action suit against Kaitlyn as an individual would go anywhere. Other "creators" would need to be named as co-defendants for it to reach Onlyfans directly.
 

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She's in the pools and hot tubs category on Kick, and is at 4.6k. She should have jumped up over 5k just from switching into the category. I believe Kick is inflating her viewers above 4k, and that's all. She might be botting, but my personal belief is that she's got some contract fuckery that makes Kick pump her views up. Probably why most of these Kick streamers sit at the same average viewers every stream, no matter what they're doing or what time of day they stream at.

And this is after Drake was on yesterday. That should have brought in a shit load of new potential viewers, but Kick numbers have never been legit, so it's impossible to quantify if it actually did anything.
 

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It took some time. Don't underestimate how long and hard Nick work to manipulate her to this point again. about a year ago she was willing to throw it all away because of type of content and long hours stream. Now it is back to sub goal, follower goal, same level of nudity (or imply even more nude) and same hours. Dobby is free.
 

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The thing is you are mixing two different things.

You are correct on the part that they cant do pretty much anything about vague titles like "biggest butts anal sluts". The thing is, amouranth does something entirely different, which is called FRAUD.

A sex video with a title like "biggest butts anal sluts" you just already know that the video will contain girls with big butts and anal, no simulation, just that, you ofc dont know if its gonna be with a male performer or a dildo or a lesbian scene or whatever unless you see a teaser, but you know that it will include big butts and anal and that's it.

When amouranth posts a selling ad that says buy my video for X amount and the video is called "My first anal". What is expected is to see something going in her fucking ass, not a simulation, not the implied crap she is doing, just an object (alive or not) going into her anal cavity.

Imagine a car ad said "Buy our car because the more you press the gas pedal the faster it goes" and you buy said car and the car goes with a fixed speed regardless how hard you press the gas, that by definition, is fraud (Fraud definition: wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain).

Onlyfans literally refunded me (even though its written in their rules that they do not refund tips) when i presented them a case where a creator asked me to tip her for something i asked so she would send it to me, and when i did tip her she didnt send the thing we agreed on but different stuff. It literally happened 2 (3?) weeks ago. Its fraud!!! Its not just "boo hoo she scammed me", its actually something people have gone to prison for for even as little as $1000.

As for what you said about defending yourself against her in court with "Well, your honor, a blowjob implies a male penis", that's exactly what you would do, you would just start giving definitions of words (you'd be surprised how stupidly comical courts are most of the time) she used to sell whatever product you are suing for being deceived with.
"My first blowjob" , was a male involved? Did an actual penis went inside her oral cavity? Yes? good. No? Add to the list of fraudulent activities
"Here's my first anal" , Does it show a penis or a dildo or literally anything going inside her ass? Yes? Good. No? Add it to the list of fraudulent activities.
"first hardcore b/g" , was there an actual male performer involved? was there visible penetration? yes? good. No? Add it to the list.
"first threesome" , again, where there actual people involved? was there penetration? yes? good. No? Add it to the list
and so on....

And we all know by now that that list has piled on for a good while (2 years? minimum?)
She IS commiting fraud and a case like that has solid accusations AND concrete evidence (all the teasers of her having fake scenes from actual porn videos that were nowhere to be found in the actual video), the only thing missing is someone who actually has money (because lets not kid ourselves, suing is expensive) that bought all that stuff to actually act legally and ruin her, or a class action lawsuit where its much much cheaper for everyone involved.

There are only two outcomes:
1. You win the case and get all your money back + whatever your lawyer manages to take extra for psychological reasons or whatever crap they can throw in there because you are a depressed lonely dude that seeked some form of intimacy and she took advantage of it. (roughly 100k-1mil EASY if you show all the money she was making which she provided herself by showing her revenue.... imagine a judge hearing she made 1mil per month doing this....)
2. You settle without court which again, you take your money back + extra money to keep it on the low (this will be a lower amount than winning the case but hey...free money)
You literally cant lose this case!

Getting legal advice is free, ask any lawyer, literally ANY LAWYER, that if you can prove that someone is committing fraud against you, can you win a lawsuit? Hit me back with their answer! (proving it, implies you actually bought stuff from her and lost money, show the teasers for said product, show her selling points, show the transactions, the actual purchased video or content in general that doesnt match or doesnt include things shown in the selling parts etc.)

This thread alone can ruin her...


Edit: i wasnt talking about FTC btw, reporting to FTC will accomplish nothing
 

Lordofpeace

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Today during the "therapy" session on Twitch she spat out some truths, and some hit too hard to home for me - I would like to rewatch some answers on a VOD, especially the answer that follows up to this clip:



Is there a page that uploads her full vods of her twitch streams?