Discussion Worst Experience with a pornstar/model?

[dakontroller]

Man runs a chartered flight company and still pirates porn

I don't have Spotify and I still pirate most of what I watch, as well.

I travel a lot, so I pirate basically every sport by necessity - but I also download any show or movie rather than watch online.

It's just more natural to me to quickly torrent what I want and have it available to me whenever/wherever I want it. No issues with poor internet speed, or zero internet when travelling.

Plus, I hate the system with multiple apps and services, it's worse than cable.

And when you travel and the library changes and you can't finish your show because it's not available in that country? And then even with a VPN it doesn't show up half the time?

This is why I pirate. None of these issues exist to me with piracy.

Fuck the mess.

 

[QUAGGA1]

FYI
if you want escort service with Molly Jane
its 1500 for 1 night and 800 for (insurance)
i almost got scammed from my BTC; she only accepts

 

[ZaCo]

$100/min???

Whitney Wright asks $100/min. I don't think Gianna's price is lower than that.

$100/min???
At this price, the customer should be involved in the scene

 

[dondada_23]

Kari Nautique. Now this one REALLY bothers me because this was a girl that I actually enjoyed following. She was beautiful and she comes from Playboy.

In the beginning, when I followed her, most of the content was a little steep for me (anywhere in between like $25 to $50), but at least with her I got some decent photosets for what I paid. Yeah I wish I didn't have to pay all that much, but I found her attractive. Plus most models give you less pictures for those prices. Kari usually gave you more.

The reason I'm typing this now is because I feel like even she is starting to change. For example, now she makes "scheduled posts" in her DMs. And those posts are ONLY previews. One of her recent ones had $35 for six pictures. To see full sets, you now have to join her VIP. And if you don't buy the previews in the short amount of time she gives you, she deletes them.

Every now and then on her wall, she'll do this thing where she says DM me *insert code word here" and I'll send you the full set. So one time, I bit. When she finally sent it to me, she made it sound like she was doing ME a favor and that it was something I forced her to give me.

I went ahead and bought it because I felt like I DID ask for it, but I won't be doing THAT again. Now I apologize for the super LONG post, but for me, this was a really upsetting experience. Like several other OF girls, I see her differently now.

Exactly. everything you said was 100% spot on about her. I was let down by her so many times, she legit scammed me like four times before, and after that, i NEVER purchased her stuff again. what pushed me to quit was just like you said, she sent in a preview video. mind you, that video was $25. caption said something like "watch me strip tease and become topless and play with myself" or something like that. i got it, except it wasn't the video she advertised. what i bought was the SAME EXACT preview video she had sent. basically, she sent the 4 second preview twice

Preview and the same one behind the paywall. when i called her out on it, she legit tried to make it seem like she sent me the full video, and that it wasn't "working" for me on my end. showed her evidence through screenshots and screen recording, and she was still trying to deny it. she wanted to run away with my $25, so i threatened her by telling her that i could easily get my bank to reverse that charge and every other charge i got from her, cause apparently asking for a refund through O.F tickets gets you banned or blocked by the model, most likely will never hand it back over to you, which i still think is wild. After that threat, she had no choice but to find a replacement video to match the one i bought

Instead she sent me a garbage shower video where shes doing nothing but washing herself, saying she apologizes and that she will sent me that one for free and that it's the "same" as the one i bought. I called her out on that too and said it wasn't cause "you're not touching yourself on here". Then tried to make it seem like i'm being disrespectful. like how?? Stole my money many times, and I'm disrespectful??

Stay alert for these models man, alot of them are scammers and money grabbers. it's her, another one named "Mandycfit" and "Dana Marie Dior". do not purchase stuff from either of them

 

[mountainranger]

FYI
if you want escort service with Molly Jane
its 1500 for 1 night and 800 for (insurance)
i almost got scammed from my BTC; she only accepts

where did u find this information, I heard she had bone cancer and left the porn industry

 

[ZaCo]

When I read the stories here about bad experiences, I thought the money-grabbers who scammed their subscribers were amateur OF content makers who didn't make a name for themselves in the mainstream industry. Until I was scammed by a star(!) who was directing and acting for the most famous companies in the industry. I saw that there were 3 videos in the PPV message and asked how many minutes long they were. That was all I wanted to know, and it took 3 weeks to get a response to the dozens of messages I sent. When I finally bought the package, I realized that she added two more videos of 5 seconds each to hide the fact that the video was only 7 minutes long. Cropped at the beginning and end to reduce it to 7 minutes. This bad experience taught me the following:

1. It doesn't matter how big a name she has or how famous the person you subscribe to is.

2. Don't you think they wouldn't risk ruining their reputation to make 44 dollars? You must be very naive.

3. When it comes to money, whether amateur or pro, they all turn into greedy wolves. And the amount doesn't matter at all. Even if they make $50,000 a month, they'll still covet $5.

4. It also doesn't matter if you subscribe to the studios' websites and buy their scenes. You are only as valuable as the money you spend in OF.

 

[QUAGGA1]

When I read the stories here about bad experiences, I thought the money-grabbers who scammed their subscribers were amateur OF content makers who didn't make a name for themselves in the mainstream industry. Until I was scammed by a star(!) who was directing and acting for the most famous companies in the industry. I saw that there were 3 videos in the PPV message and asked how many minutes long they were. That was all I wanted to know, and it took 3 weeks to get a response to the dozens of messages I sent. When I finally bought the package, I realized that she added two more videos of 5 seconds each to hide the fact that the video was only 7 minutes long. Cropped at the beginning and end to reduce it to 7 minutes. This bad experience taught me the following:

1. It doesn't matter how big a name she has or how famous the person you subscribe to is.

2. Don't you think they wouldn't risk ruining their reputation to make 44 dollars? You must be very naive.

3. When it comes to money, whether amateur or pro, they all turn into greedy wolves. And the amount doesn't matter at all. Even if they make $50,000 a month, they'll still covet $5.

4. It also doesn't matter if you subscribe to the studios' websites and buy their scenes. You are only as valuable as the money you spend in OF.

i just go to OF just to talk to girls but
yes 85% are greedy and dont care unless you pay the "fap tax"
OF is not a good place to talk to them unless they are live streaming (which is a MAYBE)
ngl you may have a better chance talking to them on their IG or PERHAPS X (Twitter)

 

[dondada_23]

When I read the stories here about bad experiences, I thought the money-grabbers who scammed their subscribers were amateur OF content makers who didn't make a name for themselves in the mainstream industry. Until I was scammed by a star(!) who was directing and acting for the most famous companies in the industry. I saw that there were 3 videos in the PPV message and asked how many minutes long they were. That was all I wanted to know, and it took 3 weeks to get a response to the dozens of messages I sent. When I finally bought the package, I realized that she added two more videos of 5 seconds each to hide the fact that the video was only 7 minutes long. Cropped at the beginning and end to reduce it to 7 minutes. This bad experience taught me the following:

1. It doesn't matter how big a name she has or how famous the person you subscribe to is.

2. Don't you think they wouldn't risk ruining their reputation to make 44 dollars? You must be very naive.

3. When it comes to money, whether amateur or pro, they all turn into greedy wolves. And the amount doesn't matter at all. Even if they make $50,000 a month, they'll still covet $5.

4. It also doesn't matter if you subscribe to the studios' websites and buy their scenes. You are only as valuable as the money you spend in OF.

Daaamn! see?? THIS! is exactly it! they're low key thieves. the crazy part is, sometimes when you call them out on it, they act like THEY are the victims lolol

 

[BuyersRemourse]

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1. It doesn't matter how big a name she has or how famous the person you subscribe to is.

2. Don't you think they wouldn't risk ruining their reputation to make 44 dollars? You must be very naive.

For most of the accounts that get big, they hire management of that account. So, it’s almost never the model themselves you are talking to in private messages. I was trying to get some info about a video from Shyla Jennings, and the responses made it sound like she outsourced the management to the prince of Nigeria.

So, yeah, the management team are there for one reason, sell sell sell. If there’s some lying involved, the reputation of the model is not a concern mostly, I guess unless that model hires a team and states that it’s important to them…but then I would think that model wouldn’t hire a team to begin with.

A big account that I think might be handled by the model themselves is SkylerLo. From the private messages I’ve received it makes me think it’s her responding, and much more respectful. But there’s no way to be sure.

 

[lvg99]

For most of the accounts that get big, they hire management of that account. So, it’s almost never the model themselves you are talking to in private messages. I was trying to get some info about a video from Shyla Jennings, and the responses made it sound like she outsourced the management to the prince of Nigeria.

So, yeah, the management team are there for one reason, sell sell sell. If there’s some lying involved, the reputation of the model is not a concern mostly, I guess unless that model hires a team and states that it’s important to them…but then I would think that model wouldn’t hire a team to begin with.

A big account that I think might be handled by the model themselves is SkylerLo. From the private messages I’ve received it makes me think it’s her responding, and much more respectful. But there’s no way to be sure.

It's not even just the "big names". Reese told me she was paying someone $100 a week to run her OF. Pretty stupid financial decision considering she was broke and couldn't even afford a place to live.

 

[ZaCo]

Daaamn! see?? THIS! is exactly it! they're low key thieves. the crazy part is, sometimes when you call them out on it, they act like THEY are the victims lolol

Exactly, bro. But in my case, she chose to play dumb. When I called her out on her lie, she pretended not to understand. "How do you mean, babe", "You seem angry"...

Do I seem angry? You can't be serious. You expect me to be happy because I got ripped off?

But I have to admit that I should have realized she was a scammer much earlier. You know, when you subscribe to someone on OF, you get an automatic welcoming message. These messages can contain videos and photos. This chick sent me a video message. When I saw it, I was like, "Wow, she was so generous", but three days later, the video was gone. Can you imagine? First a gift, then a sale. And this method reminds me of something.

 

[ZaCo]

For most of the accounts that get big, they hire management of that account. So, it’s almost never the model themselves you are talking to in private messages. I was trying to get some info about a video from Shyla Jennings, and the responses made it sound like she outsourced the management to the prince of Nigeria.

So, yeah, the management team are there for one reason, sell sell sell. If there’s some lying involved, the reputation of the model is not a concern mostly, I guess unless that model hires a team and states that it’s important to them…but then I would think that model wouldn’t hire a team to begin with.

A big account that I think might be handled by the model themselves is SkylerLo. From the private messages I’ve received it makes me think it’s her responding, and much more respectful. But there’s no way to be sure.

You are right, I understand what you mean, but I am sure the person I am talking about manages her account herself. Hiring an agency may not be very cost-effective for an account whose posts get 25 likes at most.

 

[Rikuu]

Exactly, bro. But in my case, she chose to play dumb. When I called her out on her lie, she pretended not to understand. "How do you mean, babe", "You seem angry"...

Do I seem angry? You can't be serious. You expect me to be happy because I got ripped off?

But I have to admit that I should have realized she was a scammer much earlier. You know, when you subscribe to someone on OF, you get an automatic welcoming message. These messages can contain videos and photos. This chick sent me a video message. When I saw it, I was like, "Wow, she was so generous", but three days later, the video was gone. Can you imagine? First a gift, then a sale. And this method reminds me of something.

that's how they hook you. A lot of these girls act like when sharks smell blood, except with money instead. They want to create this image of how they're super generous and make excellent content to lure simps in so they can make bank off of people who are so down bad that they're thinking with their schlongs and will buy pretty much anything. Once they have their claws dug into the simps, they don't care if they drop the image because they know that most simps are ultimately replaceable. This thread is honestly a great example of it, since there's countless posts about how some girl (whether they be famous or not) tried sending a different video than the one the person requested/paid for. Hell some of them don't send anything at all and they just claim they were super busy and just haven't sent it yet. And they only ever actually try to make it right if you threaten them via asking for a refund and even THEN some girls still don't give a shit. I think it ultimately speaks to a larger cultural issue of sheer entitlement. All these younger girls are seeing how a girl can build a small following on social media or with industry porn studios and then go off and make a fan site account and then make at least a few hundred, if not a few thousand, in a month so they think that they should do the same to make easy money. And when it works, they realize they don't even have to make great content or even just be polite/professional to their followers because they'll always just gain new ones and make more money.

 

[Claudio300]

I find it odd Kissa made that claim about him when he's also the one she says saved her life.

What she said about him?

 

[Dead_Fish]

A lot of these girls act like when sharks smell blood, except with money instead.

Excellent analogy, bro. Fit like a glove. What I am curious about is this: To talk about this analogy, a shark can smell blood from miles away, yet it would not deign to eat an anchovy fish. So, how can someone who earns tens of thousands of dollars a month stoop to 40 dollars? It seems that they are even greedier than sharks.

 

[ZaCo]

that's how they hook you.

You're so right, man. The video she sent as a gift and then took back was longer, better than the one I bought.

 

[jan30bb]

i just go to OF just to talk to girls but
yes 85% are greedy and dont care unless you pay the "fap tax"
OF is not a good place to talk to them unless they are live streaming (which is a MAYBE)
ngl you may have a better chance talking to them on their IG or PERHAPS X (Twitter)

Simple advice from uncle Jan:
You can buy content (pics, vids, JOI, dick rates)
You can buy sex (BJ, fucking, private dance)
You will never buy their hearts. That is not how human beings work. They don't know you from the bus driver. You likely have nothing in common. And you're explicitly interested in her for her appearance or sexuality. If you think you're interested because of her personality, you're lonely. If you feel yourself getting defensive, ask why are you interested in her and not one of the hundreds of thousands of women in your area?

If you buy content, you get to keep it.
If you buy sex, you have a memory (and maybe a video).
If you buy text chatting, you maybe smile for a minute when you get a response. Meanwhile, either the girl or someone working for her is just writing the same thing every lonely guy in their DMs want to hear.

If you've got money to burn and see it for what it is (paying for attention, which is artificial and will never be genuine), do your thing. But I see a lot of legit simps here acting like drug users figuring out their dealer wants them to be addicted.

 

[Brandon the Lionheart]

Well said, jan30bb. That's what I am learning more about myself everyday:

It's not the person I'm in love with, because you can't be in love with someone you don't know. If anything, what you think is love is really just lust and your attraction to the way she looks.

 

[QUAGGA1]

Simple advice from uncle Jan:
You can buy content (pics, vids, JOI, dick rates)
You can buy sex (BJ, fucking, private dance)
You will never buy their hearts. That is not how human beings work. They don't know you from the bus driver. You likely have nothing in common. And you're explicitly interested in her for her appearance or sexuality. If you think you're interested because of her personality, you're lonely. If you feel yourself getting defensive, ask why are you interested in her and not one of the hundreds of thousands of women in your area?

If you buy content, you get to keep it.
If you buy sex, you have a memory (and maybe a video).
If you buy text chatting, you maybe smile for a minute when you get a response. Meanwhile, either the girl or someone working for her is just writing the same thing every lonely guy in their DMs want to hear.

If you've got money to burn and see it for what it is (paying for attention, which is artificial and will never be genuine), do your thing. But I see a lot of legit simps here acting like drug users figuring out their dealer wants them to be addicted.

remember in the end its all a game.
personally, the best way to interact with them is seeing them IRL.
have a good conversation (if it goes well you can follow up on their social media platform)
shit i got laid from one of the pornstars I met at the expo, she even gave me her number to video call at
no cost. (just time lol)

in the end its entertainment, not lookin for a GF.
if I want to actually find one, ill just go to another country or talk to a college freshmen lol

 

[dakontroller]

If you want to chase girls online to get that wet rat, then rule one: make sure you are talking to her.

Don't guess, don't presume, and don't let someone "tell you" it's really them. Confirm it for yourself.

And confirm it right at that moment, too. Some girls will send a video to confirm it's them, then hand off to someone else to text you, and you never think to check again. You need to know you're talking to them live, right then.

It's why my go-to was always camgirls. They can answer while speaking, or they can text you in private - but you can see them reading and reacting.


The only time this doesn't work is with some euro cam sluts that don't speak English, but have their bf Google translating answers to you. But in the end, it doesn't really matter too much - they are still usually open to letting you blast their assholes for cash. Most of the time though it's really them.

I have been with many pros and many cam girls, and I've found bitches on twitter and Instagram too. Not once have I gone the OnlyFans route. It's too detached for me.

Big man up there is right too. Don't get emotionally invested. If you want to fuck, there are easy ways to do it. If you want a relationship, it's a terrible way to do it. And I "dated" some cam girls in the past too, AFTER I'd already met them to hook up. It's a terrible idea.

Identify your goal and then decide the best way to achieve it. If it's just sex, real pros exist, if you want some gf or relationship shit, go to bars.

Camwhores, OnlyFans sluts, it's all just entertainment. You can find your own game (I love trying to meet and fuck cam girls and non-pros, their first step into whoredom), but you have to see it as what it is. It can't be your life.

If you have balance and have satisfactory relationships elsewhere, don't let anybody tell you how to interact with these Internet bitches. But if you're out there trying to find those relationships, and you feel like you're finding them (OF girls responding in an interested manner), you are being lied to and being scammed. Step back. Really breathe in the reality. You only have one life, don't waste it being scammed. Find what you need.

Good luck out there bros. You chase rats sometimes you get muddy.