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Discussion How NOT to get scammed by a Pornstar/Model

I'm not a customs guy but I know this much: don't use OF for it. Use Manyvids, it has a proper system for it. The model isn't paid until the order is filled. You're also likely to get a much better one anyway.

Other than that, some general advice for newcomers:

Be judicious about who you sub and spend money with. Ultimately most OF models are disappointing in one way or another, be it with activity or post quality or commitments. And that's not even mentioning the outright scams. Most of us just have to go through trial and error but there are some general methods.

Models with subs in the triple digits or more are likely paying somebody to do messages, so don't expect real interaction.

Stick to smaller models if you're into anything like that. It's also nice to be paying someone to whom the money and appreciation is actually important. The major pitfall there is that many of them give up and quit.

Be aware that with any 'big' pages you're basically just subbing to a porn service but with only one model. There's nothing personal about it.

Camgirls are pretty decent to consider, for several reasons. They're often more professional and don't outright exploit people (some do but it's much less common than average OF thots). There's a decent chance you're actually interacting with them because they're used to doing it in their chatroom all day, they don't need a "manager" (again some do, but in general they just take it way more seriously than average models and know how to handle it). Their prices also tend to be decent. Plus you know they're open to a lot based on what their streams are like.

Of the, at this point quite a few, models I've tried out the 4 I've actually stuck with are all also camgirls. I believe it's a telling trend. They all communicate and they all post excellent stuff. These are those few models who I'd never leak, or even identify them here, because I genuinely respect and appreciate them. Seriously, look into camgirls. You may find some keepers too.

Don't buy anything off Snapchat because it has no verification method and it's full of scammers. It's either a dude or maybe she's actually real but she won't send you anything, or very little. The only snaps I have are from actual model pages, meaning I know it's them. Never do it the other way around.

Finally, this might sound cringe, but listen to the Hall & Oates song Man Eater. I'm not kidding. Listen and understand the lyrics. Apply that message to models and you'll get what most are like.
 
Dont be dumb and trust your gut. For real, if the girl gives bad vibes, watch out. I can mostly speak of Onlyfans and using CB and stripchat.

If you gonna get a custom that you have to pay in advance (which is understandable lol scammers in both sides) inform yourself. Biggest red flags imo are huge amount of spam (low quality posts, ppvs, mass dms), lack of commitment/irregular posting and girls having the "big sad". If you are gonna buy a prerecorded video, always ask for it to be sent as a ppv and never tip first. Ah, also, dont be dumb.

With camgirls same thing, but its more of a learned thing, usually scams go as either blocks after tips or pvt scams where everything costs extra but you are told when the pvt starts. Just start with cheap girls till you learn the ropes, imo latinas >>>> eastern europeans/ruskies >>>>> SE asians. Cheap westerners are usually quite sus too.

Honestly must stuff is summed up in intuition and having neurons, but we all make mistakes in the heat of passion lol
 
Honestly must stuff is summed up in intuition and having neurons, but we all make mistakes in the heat of passion lol
This is true on both counts. Very true. There's a reason "post nut clarity" is a thing. You think different when you got the horny. Imo that's why this is a good discussion to have, even the most astute among us think differently under those circumstances.

Honestly it's like not going shopping when you're hungry. Don't go surfing when you're horny. Pick some winners while you're thinking straight and stick to them when the time comes.
 
I'll leave a simple thing for now, but do your research and reconnaissance.

If she has OF, look at it and see if there's a preview of the amount of photos/videos she posts. All accounts vary and sometimes they show the numbers and even length of videos. I strictly only care if they do B/G screwing, so I know what to look out for as signs if they do or not. There's also researching on sites like these for people to share the general idea of what they post. Lots of girls only do regular photos with not even nips showing, so looking at these threads tells me not to waste money on them.
 
Through my experience with customs I think smaller creators, eastern european and russian girls are definitely the way to go. I have done the vast majority of my customs through ManyVids. I would not do it through OnlyFans because their tip limit is $200 and what if the custom is like $1k. You'd have to do 5 $200 transactions and that will flag the fraud team of your credit card company everytime

Edit: By the way what a great idea for a thread. Kudos to whoever thought of it
 
If she's bad with communication before she has your money, best believe she's going to be 1000% worse once she does. In fact, you probably won't hear from her again. Also, the more money on the line, the higher risk she's going to scam you. I've gotten the fastest turnaround on $10-$35 customs. I've had to wait MONTHS or scammed completely once the custom starts hitting $60+.

JERK OFF BEFORE YOU SEND THE MONEY AND REASSES. Never order a custom horny. Read that again.

P.S. Help the game out boys, when you get scammed, call her out, then cut your losses.
 
If you are thinking of getting a custom from a girl on OF, check her other socials first. Specifically twitter. See how she interacts with her followers on that platform. If its just spam posts with very little to no interaction... be wary. If she has good discourse with her followers there, and her followers there aren't sounding off any alarms, then shes probably a safer bet. If she has no other socials at all, i'd be very very hesitant.
 
If you are thinking of getting a custom from a girl on OF, check her other socials first. Specifically twitter. See how she interacts with her followers on that platform. If its just spam posts with very little to no interaction... be wary. If she has good discourse with her followers there, and her followers there aren't sounding off any alarms, then shes probably a safer bet. If she has no other socials at all, i'd be very very hesitant.
I agree. Very good advice
 
No man, no. If nobody is posting their content it could be because they're filing DMCA's like I have to so all my videos aren't plastered all over the internet for free.

Simple solution? Ask her to send the video in a paid message. You unlock it, you get said video (and you can even see the length!)
Sounds like fun.
 
Always check here first, if you don't see the girl, request her. If nobody is posting up any of their content, it's probably not worth it.
This would apply to some, but there are also many small models who aren't posted here either specifically because they're small or because they're actually good and people don't leak their stuff out of respect (there are a few who I would never leak for that reason, for example). There are many gems among the small pages if you're willing to take the gamble.

And there's also a reason it's a gamble, sometimes it doesn't pan out. You really need to make your own educated guess based on things like the factors covered in this thread.

That being said, with customs (which I am not a patron of) perhaps the dynamics are different. I'm really only knowledgeable on fixed content.
 
In OF be careful if anyone did a bundle promo. If the amount of videos + pricing sounds too good to be true, the video might be very very short and not worth the price even if all of it bundle up. Go for single fixed content or discuss with the content creator first before making any purchases.

Also, have anyone tried out those that offer custom or videocall? Not a fan of either of these two but I'm just curious whether those are scams or real. A lot model I follow offer this but I never go for it.
 
In OF be careful if anyone did a bundle promo. If the amount of videos + pricing sounds too good to be true, the video might be very very short and not worth the price even if all of it bundle up. Go for single fixed content or discuss with the content creator first before making any purchases.

Also, have anyone tried out those that offer custom or videocall? Not a fan of either of these two but I'm just curious whether those are scams or real. A lot model I follow offer this but I never go for it.
I have done both videocalls and customs on both OF and ManyVids. When it comes to ManyVids I think it is a better site to explore when it comes to any custom content. OF is a coin toss. There are a few girls I trust with doing customs just simply because I took a chance and it paid off. I NEVER do bundles on OF for the exact reason you stated. It tells you the amount of videos included but not the time. That's where Fansly.com beats OF because Fansly shows the time if each clip in a bundle.
 
Oh yeah-- that VIP stuff is 100% scam. Do it at your own caution. You're paying $100 just to get ignored pretty much the same as everyone else. I subscribed to one a bit ago, and after 4 months have gotten a total of 3 pictures normal subs were not able to get. Try to let it go and just find another girl. With that 100, you can make most smaller creators do just about whatever you want.
 
Oh yeah-- that VIP stuff is 100% scam. Do it at your own caution. You're paying $100 just to get ignored pretty much the same as everyone else. I subscribed to one a bit ago, and after 4 months have gotten a total of 3 pictures normal subs were not able to get. Try to let it go and just find another girl. With that 100, you can make most smaller creators do just about whatever you want.
not necessarily true. I have one model in particular I am a VIP member of and it has been worth it a lone in being able to message for free. Otherwise to message it costs 5 dollars a message for non VIP's. In the matter of a day or two we've sent enough messages back and forth to eachother (more than 20 so there is 100 bucks worth right there). Not to mention she does send out exclusive pics/vids to VIPs or offers things at a reduced rate. Not every girl will be like that, but to dismiss VIP as 100% scam is false. It all depends on what you are looking for and what the girl offers. Lets also not forget that just because that same money can get a "smaller creator" to do just about whatever you want, doesn't mean I'm interested in getting a smaller creator to do whatever I want. I sub to some of these girls because I'm a big fan of theirs. I don't see the appeal of getting some completely unknown person to do stuff for me just because I know she'll do it for cheap. Might as well just look at free porn if thats all you are after.
 
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