Discussion Worst Experience with a pornstar/model?

[joefriday2]

I don't know if you did, but you should watch the Hot Girls Wanted documentary on Netflix.
It shows how the amateur porn industry works.

It really is an industry based on exploiting gullible girls that want quick and easy money, and believe they will become stars.
Agents are basically pimps and their practices are basically abuse.
Girls destroy their bodies, are forced into scenes and practices they don't want to do, and they have to pay so much things themselves that their easy money just doesn't end up in their pockets.
I am talking here about big names like AAA pornstar, but the vast majority in small productions that didn't reach big studios yet (if they ever do).

Even in France today, they are so many scandals coming to light with big names of the French industry...

I think that the types of girls that can work in a safe and healthy way are those who are in charge, like Angela White, Little Caprice etc. who basically have their own studios, productions. Those who have some kind of tight control over what they do.

yeap angela's behind a big push for ethical porn. what's happening in france? does it involve clara morgane n lola reve?

 

[dingus2]

I have been following a Russian model on Instagram that has two accounts. One named dasha_ishere, and the other named say_hello_siri.
Some time ago, she put a photo on her story and I realised she did 18+ content, basically porn videos.

She has no link in her bios or on her other social media, and when you Google her instagram name/username, it shows nothing relevant.

So when she was doing a question-time on her story, I asked where we could find and see her content. She replied with a story video basically laughing at my face and said "WTF, you know my name... Just Google it... you dumb or what ? Wtf ?"

I replied that I am not THAT stupid and it's all I've been trying to do and she should not be acting so smug, because she's basically blowing dudes for content you can't find anywhere. Plus, she is a complete nobody with barely 20K followers using "funny" social media usernames that won't help you find her.

Anyway, I kinda felt offended by her reaction and couldn't understand how stupid you must be not to simply share a link to your content when a potential viewer is asking for it. That's some weird sales technique haha

She's 'hello Siri' on the legalporno website

 

[Gtyruush]

I don't know if you did, but you should watch the Hot Girls Wanted documentary on Netflix.
It shows how the amateur porn industry works.

It really is an industry based on exploiting gullible girls that want quick and easy money, and believe they will become stars.
Agents are basically pimps and their practices are basically abuse.
Girls destroy their bodies, are forced into scenes and practices they don't want to do, and they have to pay so much things themselves that their easy money just doesn't end up in their pockets.
I am talking here about big names like AAA pornstar, but the vast majority in small productions that didn't reach big studios yet (if they ever do).

Even in France today, they are so many scandals coming to light with big names of the French industry...

I think that the types of girls that can work in a safe and healthy way are those who are in charge, like Angela White, Little Caprice etc. who basically have their own studios, productions. Those who have some kind of tight control over what they do.

I have watched Hot Girls Wanted

Rashida Jones (Karen from The Office US) is one of the producers of it

I remember someone at Sexpo Australia asking Angela White opinion on it & she said it didn't service the adult biz in a good light (She probably said that speaking from her own experiences)

What struck me most about it is the agent guy saying how many young girls will try to get in the biz for a quick buck & only do a couple scenes to pay off the college degree or help them financially, They are lucky if they stick around for any longer than 6 months

I remember seeing Dillion Carter (Former pornstar) in the mix of it, She didn't speak

She was a favourite of mine

I do know there are several pornstars who are actively working to make porn more ethical like Angela White, Riley Reid, Reya Sunshine & many others

The content that is produced today is far more better than it ever has been mainly due to OnlyFans giving power to pornstars, cam models, subscribers which is a really good thing

If you like Hot Girls Wanted

I highly recommend checking out After Porn Ends, There's 3 of them I believe & feature some of the worlds most famous pornstars to ever shoot on screen including the GOAT Lisa Ann where they have their say about what their life is like after shooting porn

Really delves deep from the pornstars themselves

Really watch them

 

[Annihilus]

Pretty sure someone earlier in the thread mentioned how she's sensitive to pretty much anything. Is demi the same way? Not a fan of her's but I'm curious

Demi has a grudge with Blacked for some reason, it's kinda funny lol

 

[TitanThree]

yeap angela's behind a big push for ethical porn. what's happening in france? does it involve clara morgane n lola reve?

Some actors are involved into human trafficking and rape. Basically the Andrew Tate way, from what I could understand.
No names have been dropped and I didn't really look into it.
The famous French amateur studio Jacquie & Michel is also accused of rape, sexual assault, abuse. And it's not just the studio, it's also apparently the founders and owners themselves.

On the other hand, several actors and actresses are trying to make something more ethical. Nikita Bellucci is quite a militant about that. With her husband I think, she is producing more inclusive porn, not only male-oriented. She will not show rape or abuse simulations or things like that, and will not force actresses into anything they don't want to do.
I saw that in another comment, clearly porn is getting more ethical as actresses get more power and control.

 

[joefriday2]

Some actors are involved into human trafficking and rape. Basically the Andrew Tate way, from what I could understand.
No names have been dropped and I didn't really look into it.
The famous French amateur studio Jacquie & Michel is also accused of rape, sexual assault, abuse. And it's not just the studio, it's also apparently the founders and owners themselves.

On the other hand, several actors and actresses are trying to make something more ethical. Nikita Bellucci is quite a militant about that. With her husband I think, she is producing more inclusive porn, not only male-oriented. She will not show rape or abuse simulations or things like that, and will not force actresses into anything they don't want to do.
I saw that in another comment, clearly porn is getting more ethical as actresses get more power and control.

Re the ethical drive good. It’s long overdue but the only way this will be sustainable is they get the drugs out of the biz. Wow re jacquie et michel. Not surprised re the andrew tate level abuse. Europe is a hotbed for trafficking. Anywhere i can read about all this?

 

[dingus2]

Some actors are involved into human trafficking and rape. Basically the Andrew Tate way, from what I could understand.
No names have been dropped and I didn't really look into it.
The famous French amateur studio Jacquie & Michel is also accused of rape, sexual assault, abuse. And it's not just the studio, it's also apparently the founders and owners themselves.

On the other hand, several actors and actresses are trying to make something more ethical. Nikita Bellucci is quite a militant about that. With her husband I think, she is producing more inclusive porn, not only male-oriented. She will not show rape or abuse simulations or things like that, and will not force actresses into anything they don't want to do.
I saw that in another comment, clearly porn is getting more ethical as actresses get more power and control.

Disagree. Porn will alway be an ethical race to a bottom set by payment processors first and the law in the last instance. Sure there's some ethical producers, but there'll always be new starlets willing to perform with some guy with a camera subject to multiple, credible on set rape allegations. Moreover the stigma associated with porn is why it can make such high margins. And for all onlyfans has given market power to performers, it's also seen the invention of all sorts of new ways to scam users.

 

[Gtyruush]

yes august was dogpiled but if u listen to the last days of august it wasn't the dogpiling that made her kill herself. it was the underlying issues she was struggling with (her dad really fucked her over) that made her vulnerable to what happened to her on the last day of her life. what's pineapple support? did you know project august was started after august's death to act as a lifeline for pornstars in crisis? and adriana shamelessly wore a t shirt promoting it. o and guess who started project august. I'll give u a hint. it wasn't august's husband.

I know August had issues prior to the dogpilling, But it didn't help when her industry peers attacked her for simply protecting her own wellbeing for a scene

Pineapple Support is a 24/7 online mental health support service for all industry peers

https://pineapplesupport.org/welcome/

& Yes im fully aware that Adriana Chechik shamelessly wore the August Ames tribute shirt, Like as if she was trying to protect her own self even despite her dogpilling on August

RIP August, You were one in a million

 

[angelaaa]

Some actors are involved into human trafficking and rape. Basically the Andrew Tate way, from what I could understand.

That is absolutely true. That's what the "casting couch" is all about. Also parties, and Epstein's stuff. They have these girls (and young boys) prostitute themselves at parties for rich guys and celebs. Girls are told they are getting a job in "fashion" or acting and once they are trapped they make them do sex work of various kinds.

The famous French amateur studio Jacquie & Michel is also accused of rape, sexual assault, abuse. And it's not just the studio, it's also apparently the founders and owners themselves.

Yeah, that site looks like they traffic immigrants.

 

[joefriday2]

That is absolutely true. That's what the "casting couch" is all about. Also parties, and Epstein's stuff. They have these girls (and young boys) prostitute themselves at parties for rich guys and celebs. Girls are told they are getting a job in "fashion" or acting and once they are trapped they make them do sex work of various kinds.

Yeah, that site looks like they traffic immigrants.

Sigh the old fashion modelling trap is alive and well i see

 

[angelaaa]

Sigh the old fashion modelling trap is alive and well i see

That's how Epstein got a lot of his girls. Promised to introduce them to industry people. He did keep his end of the deal, sort of, it's what the industry guys did to the girls... Seems to work without fail even though people are supposed to know better by now.

 

[joefriday2]

That's how Epstein got a lot of his girls. Promised to introduce them to industry people. He did keep his end of the deal, sort of, it's what the industry guys did to the girls... Seems to work without fail even though people are supposed to know better by now.

Because it’s human nature to seek out short cuts. Man i hope andrew tate rots in prison

 

[feline]

What struck me most about it is the agent guy saying how many young girls will try to get in the biz for a quick buck & only do a couple scenes to pay off the college degree or help them financially, They are lucky if they stick around for any longer than 6 months

That's why a push for surgeries came back after some time where "natural" bodies were in fashion. Producers want to know the girls aren't going to do what you just said. Getting botox, lips, tits or ass when you don't need them is a way to let producers you're in this for the long run.

 

[TitanThree]

Re the ethical drive good. It’s long overdue but the only way this will be sustainable is they get the drugs out of the biz. Wow re jacquie et michel. Not surprised re the andrew tate level abuse. Europe is a hotbed for trafficking. Anywhere i can read about all this?

Most articles on this will be in French, so I don't know if you can read it.
But there are English versions of Le Monde if you want:

Victims of the Jacquie et Michel French porn empire share their stories

Plaintiffs speak of deception, domination, rape and violence, undermining the French porn empire’s image strategy based on the fantasy of lustful 'ordinary women.'

www.lemonde.fr

https://newsinfrance.com/the-owner-...stigation-for-complicity-in-rape-and-pimping/

 

[joefriday2]

Most articles on this will be in French, so I don't know if you can read it.
But there are English versions of Le Monde if you want:

Victims of the Jacquie et Michel French porn empire share their stories

Plaintiffs speak of deception, domination, rape and violence, undermining the French porn empire’s image strategy based on the fantasy of lustful 'ordinary women.'

www.lemonde.fr

https://newsinfrance.com/the-owner-...stigation-for-complicity-in-rape-and-pimping/

funnily enough i have 3 years of french at uni under my belt. lol

 

[joefriday2]

That's why a push for surgeries came back after some time where "natural" bodies were in fashion. Producers want to know the girls aren't going to do what you just said. Getting botox, lips, tits or ass when you don't need them is a way to let producers you're in this for the long run.

those assholes belong in jail for making the women disfigure themselves for nothing

 

[TitanThree]

funnily enough i have 3 years of french at uni under my belt. lol

Oh good! :) It's just I'm not a Parisian, I don't expect every single person to speak my language haha

Then you should be able to find plenty to read about this.
In any case, all those stories on J&M aren't that surprising, to be honest.
And I bet every country has its own awful stories too...

 

[feline]

Please tell me Dorcel aren't like this and that Claire Castel and the rest of the girls are safe lol

 

[joefriday2]

Oh good! :) It's just I'm not a Parisian, I don't expect every single person to speak my language haha

Then you should be able to find plenty to read about this.
In any case, all those stories on J&M aren't that surprising, to be honest.
And I bet every country has its own awful stories too...

de rien. and je suis d'accord re your theory about every nation. i wouldn't be surprised if kinky rabbit club is doing this

 

[joefriday2]

Please tell me Dorcel aren't like this and that Claire Castel and the rest of the girls are safe lol

i wonder how whitney wright would react if it comes to light that dorcel is as shady