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What is your definition of Arab?
Arab = ethnic peninsular Arabs, from the Arabian peninsula (i.e. Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, etc.)

Arabic = related to Arabic language or a shared Arabic culture such as shared music (i.e. Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq)

The same way we don't call Senegalese people "French" because they're french-speaking and french influence.

The same way we don't call Surinamese people "Dutch" because they're dutch-speaking and dutch influence.

The same way we don't call Brazilians people "Portuguese" because they're portuguese-speaking and portuguese influence.

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Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Sudanese, Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis are not the same ethnic group, are genetically very distinct, don't have the same history and culture and have incredibly different dialect, so calling them all "Arabs" is simply based on the shared base language, entertainment scene and dominant religion by proxy (Islam).

It's an honest mistake from outsiders but it's a political argument for pan-Arabists (those who wish to unite the entire Arabic nations as one).

It's efficient to colloquially call Egyptians "Arabs" and I completely understand the intention in the context, but it's inaccurate.
 
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Egyptians aren't Arabs. They are Arabic Speaking.
With that dimwit logic; Turks arent Turks, Hungarians are not Hungarians, South Slavs are not Slavs etc... List goes on. What makes nation is collective identity. you comparing the languages forced upon by colonialists with the egypt that was a mixture of people integrated through conquests (not colonization) over 14 centuries. same process happened in roman sicily and northern italy.
 
With that dimwit logic; Turks arent Turks, Hungarians are not Hungarians, South Slavs are not Slavs etc... List goes on. What makes nation is collective identity. you comparing the languages forced upon by colonialists with the egypt that was a mixture of people integrated through conquests (not colonization) over 14 centuries. same process happened in roman sicily and northern italy.
Exactly..? You unintentionally proved my point.

What makes a nation is collective identity...not the language that was forced upon them by colonists...so Egyptians are Egyptians, not Arabs only because the language was forced upon that nation by colonialists.

Perhaps you just wrongly articulated what you meant, because you're not making a counter-argument here.
 
Exactly..? You unintentionally proved my point.

What makes a nation is collective identity...not the language that was forced upon them by colonists...so Egyptians are Egyptians, not Arabs only because the language was forced upon that nation by colonialists.

Perhaps you just wrongly articulated what you meant, because you're not making a counter-argument here.
What is Egyptian’s mother tongue? If arabic is a forced language
 
Arab = ethnic peninsular Arabs, from the Arabian peninsula (i.e. Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, etc.)

Arabic = related to Arabic language or a shared Arabic culture such as shared music (i.e. Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq)

The same way we don't call Senegalese people "French" because they're french-speaking and french influence.

The same way we don't call Surinamese people "Dutch" because they're dutch-speaking and dutch influence.

The same way we don't call Brazilians people "Portuguese" because they're portuguese-speaking and portuguese influence.

...

Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Sudanese, Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis are not the same ethnic group, are genetically very distinct, don't have the same history and culture and have incredibly different dialect, so calling them all "Arabs" is simply based on the shared base language, entertainment scene and dominant religion by proxy (Islam).

It's an honest mistake from outsiders but it's a political argument for pan-Arabists (those who wish to unite the entire Arabic nations as one).

It's efficient to colloquially call Egyptians "Arabs" and I completely understand the intention in the context, but it's inaccurate.
Dude, the literal and official name of the country is the "Arab Republic of Egypt." I get what you're saying but this is a stretch.
 
Arab = ethnic peninsular Arabs, from the Arabian peninsula (i.e. Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, etc.)

Arabic = related to Arabic language or a shared Arabic culture such as shared music (i.e. Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq)

The same way we don't call Senegalese people "French" because they're french-speaking and french influence.

The same way we don't call Surinamese people "Dutch" because they're dutch-speaking and dutch influence.

The same way we don't call Brazilians people "Portuguese" because they're portuguese-speaking and portuguese influence.

...

Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Sudanese, Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians, Iraqis are not the same ethnic group, are genetically very distinct, don't have the same history and culture and have incredibly different dialect, so calling them all "Arabs" is simply based on the shared base language, entertainment scene and dominant religion by proxy (Islam).

It's an honest mistake from outsiders but it's a political argument for pan-Arabists (those who wish to unite the entire Arabic nations as one).

It's efficient to colloquially call Egyptians "Arabs" and I completely understand the intention in the context, but it's inaccurate.
There is no point in calling out those differences when all these countries share the same ideology, language, culture, and traditions. I am not an outsider, and I am not trying to carry any political view, but all these countries, fall under the same umbrella of being arab countries. The difference in dialects actually comes from colonization, and evolution of linguistics over the years which is influenced by geographical variations, not genes or origins. Egyptian movies are also considered arab movies, Egyptian music is also considered arab music, they are not colonized by arabs, they are arabs.
 
Exactly..? You unintentionally proved my point.

What makes a nation is collective identity...not the language that was forced upon them by colonists...so Egyptians are Egyptians, not Arabs only because the language was forced upon that nation by colonialists.

Perhaps you just wrongly articulated what you meant, because you're not making a counter-argument here.
colonization and conquest are completely different things. you must learn that first. were anglo-saxons colonizers in britain? in colonization; colonizators intentionally did not mix with locals, they did not give the colonized ones same status, they exploit their lands and bring the richness to their metropolis and lastly the metropolis must be overseas. None of them fit for the situation of egypt.
 
What is Egyptian’s mother tongue? If arabic is a forced language
Egyptians spoke Coptic. The language was replaced gradually until its full extinction as a spoken language in the past 200~300 years.

It's still alive in the Coptic Orthodox Church as the language of liturgy.

Dude, the literal and official name of the country is the "Arab Republic of Egypt." I get what you're saying but this is a stretch.
The "stretch" here is your argument. The "Arab Republic of Egypt" was named barely 50 years ago, as a failed attempt from the pan-Arabist movement to create a single nation under the "Arab" identity, known as the United Arab Republic before the political project crumbled.

There is no point in calling out those differences when all these countries share the same ideology, language, culture, and traditions. I am not an outsider, and I am not trying to carry any political view, but all these countries, fall under the same umbrella of being arab countries. The difference in dialects actually comes from colonization, and evolution of linguistics over the years which is influenced by geographical variations, not genes or origins. Egyptian movies are also considered arab movies, Egyptian music is also considered arab music, they are not colonized by arabs, they are arabs.
They don't share the same ideology, language, culture or traditions.

A Moroccan and a Lebanese have practically nothing in common and can't even understand each other.

It's Arabic movie and Arabic music. It's a misnomer to say "Arab music".

Egyptians are not Arabs, they're an Arabic-speaking nation.

colonization and conquest are completely different things. you must learn that first. were anglo-saxons colonizers in britain? in colonization; colonizators intentionally did not mix with locals, they did not give the colonized ones same status, they exploit their lands and bring the richness to their metropolis and lastly the metropolis must be overseas. None of them fit for the situation of egypt.
I used your words, not mine.

Egypt did not have heavy admixture from the Arabs, which is an even greater counter-argument against your position, because it reaffirms that they're genetically distant from Arabs.
 
Egyptians spoke Coptic. The language was replaced gradually until its full extinction as a spoken language in the past 200~300 years.

It's still alive in the Coptic Orthodox Church as the language of liturgy.


The "stretch" here is your argument. The "Arab Republic of Egypt" was named barely 50 years ago, as a failed attempt from the pan-Arabist movement to create a single nation under the "Arab" identity, known as the United Arab Republic before the political project crumbled.


They don't share the same ideology, language, culture or traditions.

A Moroccan and a Lebanese have practically nothing in common and can't even understand each other.

It's Arabic movie and Arabic music. It's a misnomer to say "Arab music".

Egyptians are not Arabs, they're an Arabic-speaking nation.


I used your words, not mine.

Egypt did not have heavy admixture from the Arabs, which is an even greater counter-argument against your position, because it reaffirms that they're genetically distant from Arabs.
There is literally zero difference between hejazi arab and an egyptian. Moreover egyptians also has huge Balkan muslim+Anatolian+Circassian and levantine admixture. For instance The guy who assasinated Egyptian dictator Anwar Sadat was Turkish origin.

You dodging every argument againist your nonsense and continuing with some bullshit unrelated things. Classic
 
There is literally zero difference between hejazi arab and an egyptian. Moreover egyptians also has huge Balkan muslim+Anatolian+Circassian and levantine admixture. For instance The guy who assasinated Egyptian dictator Anwar Sadat was Turkish origin.

You dodging every argument againist your nonsense and continuing with some bullshit unrelated things. Classic
There is a massive difference, especially for Copts who have practiced endogamy for the longest time. That difference is seen in haplogroup prevalence and SNPs, as they show up on DNA tests. The only relation is the common Natufian DNA.

Your claim has become a massive stretch that you can't substantiate but you're now trying to claim genetic sameness, which is an even worse ground to cover with the data we have available. You're not winning any argument on this ground.

I responded to every single statement.
 
There is a massive difference, especially for Copts who have practiced endogamy for the longest time. That difference is seen in haplogroup prevalence and SNPs, as they show up on DNA tests. The only relation is the common Natufian DNA.

Your claim has become a massive stretch that you can't substantiate but you're now trying to claim genetic sameness, which is an even worse ground to cover with the data we have available. You're not winning any argument on this ground.

I responded to every single statement.
who cares genetics? are we doing eugenics now! Physionomically they are undistunguishable. noone can differantiate a greek from a turk. same thing for egyptian and palestinian or jordanian or hejazi. in both cases people are from different continents.
 
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